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11-25-2015, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by markopolo
Shipments are down -0.4 (1 unit) compared to last October.
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Must have been the RT that that guy returned.
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11-25-2015, 08:28 PM
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#342
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Good one Avanti.
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11-25-2015, 08:51 PM
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I wonder if a lot of the growth was because of the better prices from Winnebago. Their prices seem to be a bit higher with the newer features and improvements. If growth continues to stall or disappears and the numbers start dropping then price must be considered.
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11-25-2015, 10:32 PM
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#344
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The Class Cs are up significantly. That seems to be the action. Still, 4 million Baby Boomers have retired in the past year and that is the biggest market. Not an encouraging report.
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11-25-2015, 10:46 PM
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Class A's are still down. What is going on there? Disillusionment? Or just the only buyers these days are budget buyers? Or maybe the boomers who've been driving smaller cars for many years can't imagine driving a huge RV?
The Class A was synonymous with full timing. Maybe fewer are doing that? At least on that platform?
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11-26-2015, 12:19 AM
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if i were a full timer it would not be a b
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11-26-2015, 12:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gerrym51
if i were a full timer it would not be a b
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It would not surprise me that the B+ units like the Navion/View are driving the C-class sales figures and are probably popular with full-timers. If you have a limited budget, it looks like a good way to go to me.
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11-26-2015, 01:21 AM
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#348
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I know a few people from our BEE Social Group gatherings that have gone from Bs to the small Cs.
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11-26-2015, 01:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davydd
I know a few people from our BEE Social Group gatherings that have gone from Bs to the small Cs.
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At least one came back....
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12-14-2015, 01:21 AM
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October 2015 Class B Sales stats have been posted on RV Business: SSI: ‘B’ Sales Soar 49.7% For Oct., Up 22.4% YTD | RV Business
Sales were up 49.7% ! ! !
Up 22.4% year to date.
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Year-over-year Class B motorhome retail registrations soared 49.7% in October and 22.4% year-to-date, according to the latest report from Statistical Surveys Inc. (SSI). The sector has posted sales gains every month this year.
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Here's the Class B market share breakdown:
August 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 33.9% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24% market share.
September 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 33.9% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24.1% market share.
October 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 34.3% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24% market share.
Very steady numbers.
It will be interesting next year with Hymer entering the North American market.
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12-31-2015, 02:19 AM
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#352
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Not surprising it looks like sales plateaued a bit at the end of the year. Still healthy growth, though.
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01-14-2016, 05:54 PM
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November 2015 Class B Sales stats have been posted on RV Business: SSI: ‘B’ Sales Dip 2.4% for Nov.; Rise 20.5% YTD | RV Business
Sales were down 2.4% but still up 20.5% year to date.
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Year-over-year Class B motorhome retail registrations dipped 2.4% in November but posted a 2o.5% gain year-to-date, according to the latest report from Statistical Surveys Inc. (SSI). Prior to November, the sector showed sales gains every month in 2015.
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Here's the Class B market share breakdown:
September 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 33.9% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24.1% market share.
October 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 34.3% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24% market share.
November 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 33.9% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24% market share.
Very steady numbers.
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01-30-2016, 12:24 AM
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December 2015 Class B Shipment stats have been published on RVIA's site: The Recreation Vehicle Industry Association: RVIA Main Site Home
Shipments are up 26.5% compared to last December. They were up 9.8% for 2015.
Class B Shipments Dec 2015.JPG
294 more Class B vans shipped this year compared to last year.
That was a great year for Class B's
Year end sales stats should be available in a few weeks.
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01-30-2016, 12:53 AM
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The Cs are doing even better and I have to believe compared to the As that most of those Cs are the smaller ones marketed as B+s.
However, this is the 5th year of retiring Baby Boomers at the rate of 10,000 per day in America. The RV market is not grabbing its share, IMO. I don't see the economy looking all that optimistic. In my circle of friends and acquaintances in my architecture/engineering/construction circles there are quite a few that have never fully recovered from the last recession and we are unnervingly close to the next one given historical frequency.
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01-30-2016, 01:48 AM
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Yep, just thinking about that today David. It's time for a down cycle hopefully not as bad as the last one...
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01-30-2016, 10:42 PM
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All those that didn't really save that much for retirement, and/or took big losses and got out and didn't reinvest - those folks have no money for RV or retirement traveling. The economy generally looks soft and I imagine the banks will start tightening real soon. They had just eased up on RV financing and now it will probably contract again.
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02-13-2016, 06:46 PM
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December 2015 Class B Sales stats have been posted on RV Business: SSI: ‘B’ Sales Soar in Dec.; Gain 12.3% for 2015 | RV Business
Sales were up 12.3% for December and up 45% year over year.
Here's the Class B market share breakdown:
October 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 34.3% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24% market share.
November 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 33.9% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24% market share.
December 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 33.9% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24.1% market share.
Very steady numbers again.
Congratulations to Winnebago in claiming the top spot for the year. IMO that shows commitment to the segment and I'm looking forward to seeing how they keep this momentum going.
Roadtrek held the top spot for 25 years I think so my guess is that they will want it back so it should make for a great year for purchasers.
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03-12-2016, 05:29 PM
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January 2016 Class B Sales stats have been posted on RV Business: SSI: Class B Sales Show 7.5% Gain in January | RV Business
Sales were up 7.5% compared to last January.
Here's the Class B market share breakdown:
November 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 33.9% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24% market share.
December 2015
Winnebago Industries Inc. 33.9% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 28.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24.1% market share.
January 2016
Winnebago Industries Inc. 33.9% market share.
Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. 31.6% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 24% market share.
Nice gain by Roadtrek.
If the #1 spot is important then competitive pricing might be the trend for this year.
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