Dumping cassette toilet.

[GeorgeRa]

I am contemplating adding a recent invention by FITRV fellow to my methods of dumping cassette. Cassettes allow dumping in any type of toilets but dumping into a hole in the ground like RV dump stations, or sewer accepting campsites is challenging without spills. We have a binary style of choosing campsites, without any facilities or very often with full hookups. In both cases I can use campground toilets but in a full hookup campsite I can’t use campsite’s sewer hole because dumping is practically impossible without spills, and toilets are often far away, far away for a 5 gallons heavy cassette.

So here comes FITRV invention – the Americanizer - https://www.thefitrv.com/rv-tech/cas...-americanizer/

I remember his feedback requesting video years ago, then I thought about issue of carrying a dirty dumping hose and dirty Amerianizer. His patent is related to keeping Americaniser clean (see the video) and the hose could be just 2’ long and easier to clean than a long hose.

I am planning to get:

1. Americanizer https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...OL2KCS7D&psc=1

2. Short hose https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

3. Dumping adapter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

4. A hose carrier shortened to 2’ hose capacity attached to the ladder. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

Comments are welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHRiCzLV2fk

[booster]

Yep, we have seen numerous campers trying to dump at the dump stations.


They generally just dump it at let it go wherever it wants in the concrete basin, and then wash it down the drain with water, or many time without and leaving an ugly mess worse than the worst slinky dumpers do.

[GeorgeRa]

Originally Posted by booster

Yep, we have seen numerous campers trying to dump at the dump stations.


They generally just dump it at let it go wherever it wants in the concrete basin, and then wash it down the drain with water, or many time without and leaving an ugly mess worse than the worst slinky dumpers do.

Unfortunately, some folks don’t know how to use a water hose.

[W9TR]

I think the problem with the whole “Americanizer” thing is now you have the adapter and hose that are unsanitary after use. If you have water you can clean them, sort of. Not as good as running 10 gallons of soapy grey water through them. You also have to find a container for them and a place to store them. So for that reason I have stayed away from what I think is a bad idea. If the campground only has individual site hookups I don’t stay there.

[ks@yvr]

We have a cassette and we just dump down the toilet; For the facilities that are a long ways away from our site, we dump on the way out or coming back into the park, when we are close to the toilets. There usually is short term parking by most toilets for a quick dump.

We also subscribe to the South American model of no ‘loo’ paper in the cassette. We recycle the many zip lock bags that food comes in (frozen vegetables, cereal etc.) for disposing of the loo paper in the trash cans. Makes the whole dumping process quick and easier. We can clean the cassette at home when we can swirl soapy water into the cassette and dump again.

[avanti]

The more I read, the more attached I get to my fully-sealed macerator system. If I thought I needed to dump in a toilet, I would carry a small jerry can for the purpose and use the macerator to fill it.

[GeorgeRa]

To compare here are reviews from Amazon. Two one-star ratings were “made in China”

[MsNomer]

Originally Posted by avanti

The more I read, the more attached I get to my fully-sealed macerator system. If I thought I needed to dump in a toilet, I would carry a small jerry can for the purpose and use the macerator to fill it.

The more I read, the more attached I get to my bag'nbucket. It seems the cassette between these extremes has the disadvantages of both.

[GeorgeRa]

Originally Posted by MsNomer

The more I read, the more attached I get to my bag'nbucket. It seems the cassette between these extremes has the disadvantages of both.

Please clarify how bag’n bucket is better than a cassette so it doesn’t look like mine is better comment. I agree with Avanti that a fully sealed macerator system is very good for continues use, and a double macerator system even better but have hard time see a bucket system being better than any other system for #1 and #2.

[MsNomer]

Never have to clean anything—just toss the bag and install a fresh one. Imagine being boondocked a number of days and one of you has explosive diarrhea that doesn’t politely point downward. This has only happened once, but OMG I was so thankful I didn’t have to clean anything! This also means that my toilet never smells of vinegar or anything else that people use to clean toilets.

Bucket is small and weighs maybe half a pound? And it is discreet. I can take it into a restaurant toilet past rows of diners and nobody has ever batted an eye.

[GeorgeRa]

Originally Posted by MsNomer

Never have to clean anything—just toss the bag and install a fresh one. Imagine being boondocked a number of days and one of you has explosive diarrhea that doesn’t politely point downward. This has only happened once, but OMG I was so thankful I didn’t have to clean anything! This also means that my toilet never smells of vinegar or anything else that people use to clean toilets.

Bucket is small and weighs maybe half a pound? And it is discreet. I can take it into a restaurant toilet past rows of diners and nobody has ever batted an eye.

I agree that any RV human waste management system can be overwhelmed in possible corner cases such as diarrhea, leaking bag, broken macerator, leaking waste tank etc. I am struggling to see bucket benefits for #1 and #2.

[MsNomer]

If you are referring to Posts 1 and 2 re dump stations, full hookup sites, and distant toilets, the answer is that we have never needed or wanted to use a dump station, we don’t use full-hookup sites, and the bucket is light enough to carry whatever distance is necessary to the toilet. Given how the bag dumps, however, it would be an easy matter to dump directly into a hole. Same controlled stream as pouring into a toilet.

[GeorgeRa]

Originally Posted by MsNomer

If you are referring to Posts 1 and 2 re dump stations, full hookup sites, and distant toilets, the answer is that we have never needed or wanted to use a dump station, we don’t use full-hookup sites, and the bucket is light enough to carry whatever distance is necessary to the toilet. Given how the bag dumps, however, it would be an easy matter to dump directly into a hole. Same controlled stream as pouring into a toilet.

Are you collecting urine in a bag and dump in a restaurant toilets, that is a at least a gallon of fluid with solids for a couple per day?

[MsNomer]

Originally Posted by GeorgeRa

Are you collecting urine in a bag and dump in a restaurant toilets, that is a at least a gallon of fluid with solids for a couple per day?

That’s about right, though MrNomer prefers to stand and use a Nalgene.

[GeorgeRa]

Originally Posted by MsNomer

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Bucket is small and weighs maybe half a pound? And it is discreet. I can take it into a restaurant toilet past rows of diners and nobody has ever batted an eye.

Originally Posted by MsNomer

That’s about right, though MrNomer prefers to stand and use a Nalgene.

If you indeed walking in between diners with one gallon of human waste in a bag I am sure you use a military grade bag, any bag rupture could be disastrous and rather unwelcome by the establishment.

[MsNomer]

I’ve never had a failure. I use a Sherwin Williams paint bucket which somewhat disguises its true purpose.

[GeorgeRa]

Originally Posted by MsNomer

I’ve never had a failure. I use a Sherwin Williams paint bucket which somewhat disguises its true purpose.

Thank you for explaining, if I would build another camper van, I would choose either a cassette system for short trips and stays or double macerator black tank for longer trips or stays. No disguises necessary.

[booster]

I have always wondered what the Dept of Health would think of someone walking through a restaurant with a bucket or tank of human waste.

[GeorgeRa]

Originally Posted by booster

I have always wondered what the Dept of Health would think of someone walking through a restaurant with a bucket or tank of human waste.

Disguising any action from carrying human waste between diners to stealth camping is trying to hide behavior not normally acceptable.

[avanti]

Originally Posted by GeorgeRa

Thank you for explaining, if I would build another camper van, I would choose either a cassette system for short trips and stays or double macerator black tank for longer trips or stays. No disguises necessary.

What do you mean by "double macerator'? Two redundant ones? or something else?