Zion SRT

mumkin · 09-02-2015, 02:26 AM

Jim Hammill has announced that the prototype of the new Zion SRT will be at Hershey. It is designed for single people and he talks about it on this podcast:

PODCAST 63: Roadtrek Motorhomes and Balfour Resort | RV Daily Report | Breaking RV Industry News and Campground Information

It is on the short promaster!! Just what I was hoping for...

gerrym51 · 09-02-2015, 02:36 AM

are you going to buy one

booster · 09-02-2015, 02:59 AM

Makes sense for Roadtrek. They seem to be the only ones able to sell many of the short vans with the 170 and the Agile. I don't think anyone else is doing a standard short one anymore?

gerrym51 · 09-02-2015, 03:09 AM

like to see a floorplan-the bed would be my concern

mumkin · 09-02-2015, 04:23 AM

Yes, booster... they are the last of the converters doing the small Bs. LTV stopped their Chevy a few years back. Pleasureway just replaced theirs with a longer Promaster. Sportsmobile will still do one, of course.

I suspect that it will pretty much reproduce the floor plan of the 170 with the advantage of the straight walls and one foot longer. Some of you may recall that I was originally negotiating with Great West to convert just this platform. Fortunately my doubts about whether Promaster was quite ready for prime time saved me making that mistake. (GWV, not the Promaster) I'm hoping that they will have some optional set-ups for us singles... many of whom prefer a permanent bed set-up... a bigger fridge.

When I was talking to Lake Region, the idea was that the 170 was going to be a short term option for me while I waited for Promaster to have a bit more of a track record. Definitely the 2015 doesn't have all the issues that the 2014 did... and hopefully in the next couple years, they will bring over the new styling that has come out this year in Europe. I would also like to see their parts system better organized.

This will also allow the working out of any more issues with the Ecotrek for which I am one of the beta testers... and I'll be ready then... knowing all the ins and outs. That is presuming that age doesn't get me first. LOL

mumkin · 09-02-2015, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gerrym51

like to see a floorplan-the bed would be my concern

It is about the same interior width as the Chevy... so if it is rear sofa, it would be the same issue for tall people.

Jostalli · 09-02-2015, 06:21 AM

Interior cargo space is about the same as the Sprinter 170 so it's definitely not a "small" B.

mumkin · 09-02-2015, 04:29 PM

It is under 20 feet... to me that is small, and I think most would think so. Personally I don't carry cargo. LOL I'm looking at fitting in a parking space and it would only be 3 feet longer than my Toyota Sienna.

Jostalli · 09-02-2015, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mumkin

It is under 20 feet... to me that is small, and I think most would think so. Personally I don't carry cargo. LOL I'm looking at fitting in a parking space and it would only be 3 feet longer than my Toyota Sienna.

Cargo volume means the amount of space inside the cargo area of the van (i.e. everything behind the driver and passenger seat). That area in the Promaster 159 standard length is the same volume as a Sprinter 170.

mumkin · 09-02-2015, 07:15 PM

"Cargo volume" merely tells you that you can fit more house into what is definitely a small Class B.

Not sure which you mean by "Sprinter 170" because both the EB and LB have a 170" wheelbase and can be 22'9" to 24' which makes the SRT small at 19'7" ... IMHO

It will be the smallest possible Class B if they discontinue the Chevy based Roadtrek 170 which is a foot shorter than the SRT.

BobB · 09-02-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mumkin

Yes, booster... they are the last of the converters doing the small Bs. LTV stopped their Chevy a few years back. Pleasureway just replaced theirs with a longer Promaster. Sportsmobile will still do one, of course.

Doesn't PW still offer the Ascent built on the Sprinter 144WB just like the Agile. I think it in their 2016 lineup.

Jostalli · 09-02-2015, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mumkin

"Cargo volume" merely tells you that you can fit more house into what is definitely a small Class B.

Not sure which you mean by "Sprinter 170" because both the EB and LB have a 170" wheelbase and can be 22'9" to 24' which makes the SRT small at 19'7" ... IMHO

It will be the smallest possible Class B if they discontinue the Chevy based Roadtrek 170 which is a foot shorter than the SRT.

The Mercedes Sprinter 170 also comes in a 170 EXT for "extended". I am talking about the standard Sprinter 170. Your use of the word "small" is what I am taking issue with as the Promaster 159 standard length is enormous inside compared to comparable length vans. Perhaps a better word to use would be "short".

gerrym51 · 09-02-2015, 08:24 PM

144 19 feet 5 inches

170 22 feet 9 inches

170 extended 24 feet

mumkin · 09-02-2015, 09:52 PM

Yes BobB... they still offer the Ascent. But some (quite a few) prefer to avoid the Sprinter and its multiplying issues with the DEF system

BobB · 09-02-2015, 10:01 PM

Well, I am going to the Hershey show in a couple of weeks, so I will check it out, take photos, etc.

mumkin · 09-03-2015, 02:38 AM

Great... I really want to see them... check if my guesses are correct.

Fastpaddler1 · 09-03-2015, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mumkin

Yes BobB... they still offer the Ascent. But some (quite a few) prefer to avoid the Sprinter and its multiplying issues with the DEF system

Since I am looking at an LTV Unity I am interested in the DEF system issues to which you refer. I have heard of DEF shortage messages which were a fault. What else? Thanks.

AL

BobB · 09-03-2015, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastpaddler1

Since I am looking at an LTV Unity I am interested in the DEF system issues to which you refer. I have heard of DEF shortage messages which were a fault. What else? Thanks.

AL

Agree with Fastpaddler. A number of contributors here have the Sprinter and I have not heard of any DEF system issues, other than making sure you have some with you.

Davydd · 09-03-2015, 02:05 PM

You can buy DEF at any auto parts store, Walmart, truck stops, etc. You have a fairly long grace period after a warning comes up that you are low on DEF. There is no need to have to carry it unless you are driving 400+ miles up to Prudhoe Bay or something odd like that. But then the more I think about that I suspect there is nothing but diesel vehicles driving that route. So probably not a problem there.

markopolo · 09-03-2015, 02:35 PM

A little bit of Roadtrek Zion SRT info:

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Roadtrek will be showcasing at the Open House in Elkhart, displaying new models on some of its most popular motorhomes.

“We will have a full assortment of models on hand, including two new units, the Zion SRT, which is our second unit to be built on the Ram ProMaster, but the SRT is on the shorter chassis,” Roadtrek Director of Marketing Karyn Torcoletti said.

The SRT can sleep up to three, and seats up to four. The motorhome is designed to include plenty of storage, alongside its permanent bath with shower and extensive galley.

source: Manufacturers Prepare Open House Surprises | RV Industry News

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