Winnebago Era 70C - with slide out

[eric1514]

That looks like a smaller version of the airbed/sofa that comes in the Itasca/Winnebago 24M. My neighbor has one. The air bed inflates with an integral pump that only runs on 120v. Winnebago did not include an inverter.

[Davydd]

The difference between the Leisure Travel Free Spirit SS and the Winnebago 70c is the Winnebago is built on the extended chassis. The water and waste tanks also have more capacity. Conceptually the plans are similar.

To me having a slide on a B diminishes stealth capabilities. Way too much non living support space, no zoning with an either/or situation of living and sleeping is just the exact thing I am trying to get away from. I don't understand the three burner stove idea when only two people will occupy this B.

[gerrym51]

bed is too small-I agree with Davydd-kitchen is made for serving a group dinner-not touring in a van

[bobojay]

Originally Posted by SiennaGuy

Well, the 70C is now posted on the Winnebago website:
http://winnebagotouring.com/products/20 ... loorplans/

Just looked at this on their website. Wow, $11k+ higher than our 70A was at list price.

[stanw909]

Blow up a bed every night? No thanks!

[bobcat66]

FYI - The bed is a fold and tumble type bed - NOT an air bed.

[booster]

Originally Posted by SiennaGuy

Well, the 70C is now posted on the Winnebago website:
http://winnebagotouring.com/products/20 ... loorplans/

For those who like huge bathrooms, it should appeal to them. It looks like the bath takes up about 1/3 of the useful space. Not for us, but others will like it.

Going back to an earlier discussion of class b design, I find it very interesting that they offer the kitchen on both sides, based on the various models. I then Winnebago also does that on their larger RV, IIRC.

[Davydd]

In regard to Sprinter designs, the 70X was the first ERA on the market and it was essentially a Roadtrek clone floor plan. Since then they came out with the 70A plan which is somewhat unique from what I can tell in not being a direct copy of any other American Class B, and then the 70C plan which is a clone of the LTV Free Spirit SS. I get the sense designers don't have as much say as their marketing department. Next up I suppose is a response to Coach House Arriva.

Airstream Interstate went through some iterations before finally settling on their Roadtrek clone plan. They originally started out with a mid twin bed design.

LTV originally offered plans with kitchens on both sides but eventually settled on counter on passenger side. Pleasure-way and Great West Vans started out with counter on passenger side. Advanced RV essentially built on the Great West Van concepts.

There are a few Sprinter casualties along the way from major companies like Gulfstream with the original rear bath design and Thor Four Winds. Four Winds was a Roadtrek plan clone.

[bobcat66]

The 2015 ERA 70C includes the Alde Hydronic Heating System and a 45 gal fresh water tank. I like the idea of a quiet, comfortable heating system and a larger fresh water tank.

http://www.alde.co.uk/downloads/alde_br ... orhome.pdf

[Davydd]

That Alde system requires LPG for fuel? Is there a diesel option?

[Mike]

Found this thread on another site. Looks like Alde is propane only. Webasto apparently uses diesel.
http://roadtreking.com/forum/propane-or ... t1169.html

[bobcat66]

The Alde system used in the 2015 ERA 70C runs on either 115VAC or Propane.

If you are plugged into shore power it operates on electricity, otherwise it runs on propane.

[Mike]

So, does that confirm there is no diesel option for the Alde system, off grid? My (unqualified) post was in response to Davydd's question on the previous page, based on the thread I linked to from another discussion forum.

[bobcat66]

Correct - according to the online brochure and the article at the link below neither mention diesel...only LPG or 120VAC:

http://www.motorhome.com/rv-travel-news/quiet-heat/

[cjscott]

Very excited about this new model. I've seen the LT Free Spirit SS and it is so beautiful, love the light mixed colors inside, the big bathroom, bigger fridge, tanks and slide, looks very similar to this one. The 2015 has electric sofabed, nice, wonder if this Era 70C does? I know the SS feels very open inside, love it. :P Is the Era 70C out yet, I see this conversation has been going for half a year. Anyone see it in person? Hopefully better priced than the LT version. Like that the shower door opens out to the back, you could even load a cooler in through the back and have it sit in your shower until you get to your camp. Are the tank sizes the same as the LT Free Spirit SS?

[bobcat66]

Prices and specs for the 2015 ERA 70C can be found here:
http://winnebagotouring.com/products/20 ... loorplans/

The ERA 70C MSRP is $11,000 less than the LTV FS SS. Assuming the typical 20-25% discount that can be had for other WGO Sprinter-based units, the 70C should be a better value than the LTV.

Some specs of note:
- 45 gal fresh water tank (larger than many Class C rigs)
- pleated-sliding front window blinds (as in the WGO View - more open feel when closed than with drapes)