Webasto vs Eberspacher gas powered.

[GeorgeRa]

Review from Heatso

https://www.heatso.com/webasto-air-t...ource=omnisend

[jrobe]

The important things that they didn’t address are maintenance and longer term reliability. They do get gunked up with carbon residue and require some regular maintenance. I clean my Espar D2 yearly which takes about 30 min and costs about $30 in parts. The difficulty of this is based on the ease of access. Mine is under the passenger seat although it is fairly easy to remove. I could probably do it every other year. It wouldn’t be easy or cheap to find someone to do this service work in my area.

On the other hand, these things are ingenious. They work extremely well (at least the diesel ones). It is amazing to have a virtually unlimited supply of heating fuel without having to depend on propane. I even have a propane tank for cooking and hot water and it lasts me 4 years or more between refills. I can still picture the gas station attendant though rolling their eyes when I ask them to refill my propane tank which they usually hate doing.

[GeorgeRa]

Originally Posted by jrobe

The important things that they didn’t address are maintenance and longer term reliability. They do get gunked up with carbon residue and require some regular maintenance. I clean my Espar D2 yearly which takes about 30 min and costs about $30 in parts. The difficulty of this is based on the ease of access. Mine is under the passenger seat although it is fairly easy to remove. I could probably do it every other year. It wouldn’t be easy or cheap to find someone to do this service work in my area.

Is your diesel or gas?, this was specific comparison of petrol units which experience limited buildup as far as I know, cleaner combustion.

[avanti]

Originally Posted by jrobe

I clean my Espar D2 yearly which takes about 30 min and costs about $30 in parts. The difficulty of this is based on the ease of access. Mine is under the passenger seat although it is fairly easy to remove. I could probably do it every other year. It wouldn’t be easy or cheap to find someone to do this service work in my area.

I suspect that run hours is a much better predictor of required service interval than calendar time. Also, you can greatly extend the tear-down interval of a diesel unit by running for an hour on kerosene once in awhile. Really cleans things up.

Most Thermo Kings will service Espars. Mine is very good.

[JakeyLee]

I assisted with an instal of Webasto EVO 40 (petrol) in my bother’s Promaster. After spending a day reading instructions, watching YouTube videos, and generally stressing out, I can honestly say it was shockingly easy. It’s been going on almost two years now. The one thing I hear over and over is how happy he is with that heater. Darn thing sips gas even on below freezing nights. No problems as of yet .

I’m not super familiar with the options when it comes to petrol. Matter of fact, I’m not sure there’s a ton out there. Now when it comes to diesel, I’ve met folks that instal the Chinese knockoffs , and just hope they last a couple years. With the price point of the knockoff heaters, it’s probably a wash. I’ve even met folks that install the diesel heaters in gas rigs. Mostly because there’s so many cheap options out there. I dunno, I hate the idea of carrying a gallon of diesel in my petrol rig, just to run a heater. It seems like it defeats the purpose. But yeah, as far as petrol goes , you’re not gonna find much better than the Webasto. It’s not cheap, but for the life of me I have a hard time finding a bad user experience/review .

[hbn7hj]

Don’t know about comparing Webasto to Eberspacher. Don’t think having to adjust the Webasto for altitude manually is much of an issue.

However, comparing a Webasto gasoline heater to a Suburban propane heater is consequential. The Suburban is a dinosaur.

I just installed a Webasto gasoline heater in a class C Lazy Daze. The Suburban uses twice the electrical power overnight. With a 55 gallon fuel tank the “unlimited” description of fuel supply is accurate. The major difference is the variable heat output of the Webasto delivering a constant flow of warm air all night long.

My heated mattress pad stays switched off along with the Suburban. The Wave 6 left the premises.

My motivation was to get away from chasing propane but the improvement in heating efficiency and comfort was a very pleasant surprise. The external exhaust is noisy even with a muffler but I don’t hear it inside nor do I hear the ticking fuel pump.

One of my better RV modifications. Haven’t had to service it yet so can’t speak to that.

I bought it from Russia for $672. I would have trouble with the UK/US price of ~$1600. I guess I would pay it if I had to as it is a better furnace.

The install was a PIA having to buy parts from VMACs and Heatso along with the local Ace Hardware store.

[ks@yvr]

I installed a Webasto 2000 STC a little over a year ago and it works flawlessly at all altitudes no adjustments necessary from sea level to 10,000 + feet. I to ordered out of Russia (probably not possible now with current world events) but landed cost was less than 40% of Heatso and relatively fast (30 days Russia Post and 30 days Canada Post with tracking all the way similar to UPS).

I’d buy another in a heartbeat and way better than the Suburban Propane heater in my previous PW. Much quieter and if you wrap the fuel pump with some neoprene insulation you won’t hear the tick of the fuel pump inside or outside.

[RTRanger]

This guy has some great info on the Chinese heaters:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tvwmU_CcmGI

Lots of little things that will cause problems in these heaters which I’ve seen YouTubers doing over and over.