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05-04-2018, 04:45 PM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: CA
Posts: 1,330
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It's really not about the fuel as it is the maintenance and exposure... don't have an accident commuting to work and back.... not a good plan.
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05-04-2018, 05:23 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2
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Originally Posted by Melix
Hello! We are in the process of buying a Pleasure-Way Lexor - 21ft long and in order to afford it I will need to sell my car and use the van as my 'car'. I am totally nervous about doing this, parking and getting around in our small town in this huge, long thing.
Does anyone use a 21ft long class b as their sole transportation? How is it working for you?
Thank you for your help!
Mel
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I do that and it has forced me to use my bicycle for many trips. Obviously there are trips that require cargo or weather issues but at least 50% of my local trips are now on two wheels and I'm getting much needed exercise.
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05-04-2018, 07:20 PM
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#23
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 9
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I use my 2017 Lexor TS as my daily driver.
The 21ft length allows you to park just about anywhere and the Promaster is highly maneuverable. Pleasureway’s attention to proper weight distribution makes it a delight to drive. Be sure to join the Pleasureway Owners Facebook group. It’s a nice group of helpful folks.
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05-04-2018, 09:10 PM
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Bronze Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: OR
Posts: 36
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I use my 17'9" Axion every day and LOVE IT!!!
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05-05-2018, 02:08 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 105
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One of advantages of having that little minivan Jucy is it goes about everywhere without problems. The only issue is the occasional parking garage with low clearance. It's also insurable as a minivan.
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05-05-2018, 02:37 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Chaska MN
Posts: 1,761
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Back to the insurance question, I talked to damn near every insurance company in the US... between me, FMCA, and an independent agent. The question was NOT how many miles or where you live or how often you drive the van. Two questions excluded me:
1. Do you own another vehicle? (No)
2. Do you have a residence? ie not full time... (Yes)
All of them would have insured me if I had another vehicle and a number of them would insure full-timers with only an RV. But, only National General would cover my situation.
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2019 Roadtrek Simplicity SRT (almost a Zion)
2015 Roadtrek 170
2011 LTV Libero
2004 GWV Classic Supreme
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05-05-2018, 02:53 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: East
Posts: 2,483
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mumkin
Back to the insurance question, I talked to damn near every insurance company in the US... between me, FMCA, and an independent agent. The question was NOT how many miles or where you live or how often you drive the van. Two questions excluded me:
1. Do you own another vehicle? (No)
2. Do you have a residence? ie not full time... (Yes)
All of them would have insured me if I had another vehicle and a number of them would insure full-timers with only an RV. But, only National General would cover my situation.
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Go buy a rust bucket as your "first" car.
My brother did.
The total premium was increased by $23
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05-05-2018, 04:26 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mumkin
Back to the insurance question, I talked to damn near every insurance company in the US... between me, FMCA, and an independent agent. The question was NOT how many miles or where you live or how often you drive the van. Two questions excluded me:
1. Do you own another vehicle? (No)
2. Do you have a residence? ie not full time... (Yes)
All of them would have insured me if I had another vehicle and a number of them would insure full-timers with only an RV. But, only National General would cover my situation.
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Did National General give you a reasonable rate?
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05-05-2018, 07:25 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: CA
Posts: 1,330
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Mumkin, we own two other cars... do you really want to drive the miles up on your RV just going to the market and other local places... ? Most insurance companies want you to use an RV as it's intended for recreational purposes...
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05-05-2018, 03:05 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: naples
Posts: 9
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I use mine full time as a home care PT. Mine is 20 ft and live in Key West. I love it.
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05-05-2018, 03:31 PM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: CA
Posts: 1,330
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I'm NOT saying that you can't do it..I'm sure a lot of people do...all I. I'm saying is that you may have an issue if the insurance company thinks that you're using this full time when they didn't write the policy for this purpose.....
Why not ask yourself WHY commercial insurance and full timers pay a lot more for coverage?
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05-05-2018, 03:37 PM
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#32
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,058
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if you use your rv as a daily driver-you are putting miles on quicker-obviously. Vehicle warranty's expire quicker and resale value even if the house part is rarely used your roadtrek will mostly be judged on how many miles it has.
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05-05-2018, 10:15 PM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Chaska MN
Posts: 1,761
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Not always obvious nor correct. I've had my rig for almost 3 years and it just turned over to 20,000 miles or appr 600 miles a month and that includes 3 round trips between AZ and MN - so that would mean only about 400 miles a month of usage as a car.
Why would I buy a junker to fill up my garage for the privilege of paying more?? I am already paying the same amount as I was paying previously for a more expensive RV plus a Toyota Sienna.
So... IMHO... I am being screwed by having to pay $1200 a month to Nat Gen.
It would be ludicrous to buy a car when I can drive my little van anywhere I need to go... only have one vehicle to maintain... for a car to sit in a garage for the 7 months I am in AZ... and THEN, I'd have to pay to store the RV because I don't have space for 2 vehicles in MN.
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2019 Roadtrek Simplicity SRT (almost a Zion)
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05-05-2018, 10:31 PM
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#34
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Bronze Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: OR
Posts: 36
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$88/ mo. with Progressive for my 2017 Carado (or as they have it listed Hymer) Axion. Give them a call, couldn't hurt. They asked me how much I plan to camp and I said 3 to 6 mo. per year. Good luck.
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05-06-2018, 07:52 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: CA
Posts: 1,330
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According to NADA RV values... NADA is the National Automobiles Dealer Association... diesel miles are NOT computed for value.....
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05-06-2018, 07:53 AM
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Platinum Member
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Location: CA
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Of course mileage does play an important role in gasoline vehicles.
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05-06-2018, 04:54 PM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Virginia
Posts: 764
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While we have other vehicles, I choose to use the 210....mainly due to amenities. I really don't build up mileage traveling 50 miles round trip about twice a week. I have Progressive and it comes in at almost a $1K per, and there is no questions asked, etc. Progressive did mention they had some "sleeper" type program, where if you park the RV and don't move it for X months, the rates would go down....I will pay the extra to be able to drive when I want. I would like to be able to use to visit my Doctor's, but they have that tiered parking and no large vehicle parking.Ron
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05-06-2018, 05:22 PM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 12,382
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron J. Moore
While we have other vehicles, I choose to use the 210....mainly due to amenities. I really don't build up mileage traveling 50 miles round trip about twice a week. I have Progressive and it comes in at almost a $1K per, and there is no questions asked, etc. Progressive did mention they had some "sleeper" type program, where if you park the RV and don't move it for X months, the rates would go down....I will pay the extra to be able to drive when I want. I would like to be able to use to visit my Doctor's, but they have that tiered parking and no large vehicle parking.Ron
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With both the Roadtrek and sometimes my old Buick, I just suspend all the coverage except comprehensive when not in use for extended times, like winter in Minnesota. At least with State Farm, all it takes is a call the agent to do.
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05-06-2018, 08:09 PM
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#39
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: CA
Posts: 1,330
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Cost of NOT using your RV
Regardless of how little you use your RV...it still costs a lot to maintain.... it's time or mileage on any vehicle.... storing it and not driving adds up fast for maintenance and even reduced insurance.... tires, oil changes, belts, and other critical components....
All told, if you pay for something and don't use it... it's the most expensive way to go... it's all about your total cost divided by the number of miles you travel...
Just saying you have extremely low mileage but it's cost you more than $2 per mile is not saving money..... some people actually have done this....on the other hand... going 350,000 miles even though you have repairs.... now, you're really getting your money's worth.
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05-08-2018, 02:45 AM
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#40
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: California
Posts: 5
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I use my DIY converted 148" WB Transit as a daily driver for my job in sales. I drive about 1,600 miles/mo in the East San Francisco Bay Area. It's mostly urban, but nothing as bad as SF, so parking is generally not too difficult. I wish I was getting better than 15 MPG, but the only alternative is another car payment.
There are some distinct perks to driving your Class B as your sole vehicle. I always have fresh water and cold beverages to drink, and I never have to use public toilets. For lunch break, I often pull up to a scenic spot and use the microwave to heat leftovers or frozen entrees. I can take a nap in the afternoon on my full size bed, or if that doesn't work I can make a quick cup of coffee.
While I work, I have wi-fi and space to lay out my catalogs and papers in the back.
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