Upcoming Class B Models

[rockymtnb]

Upcoming Class B campervan model list. Once these are formally introduced we can break them out into separate model threads.

• Pleasure-Way RECON
  Sprinter 144 wb 4x4 Adventure Van

• Tiffin Cahaba
  Sprinter 144 wb (4x4)
  Given this is Tiffin I would have expected a luxe Airstream 19 copy, but the macho light bars signal more of a Revel/Santuary/RECON wanna-be?

• Winnebago ROAM
  Transit 148 extended, presumably AWD. Possible pivot wet-dry bath similar to EKKO.
  Introduction may be delayed by Ford production shutdowns.

Any others to list?

[Keyne]

The PW Recon looks pretty well thought out for the adventure market and use case. Looks like they want to cash in on the Outside Van, custom adventure van market like WGO did with the Revel. Less wait time, warranty, dealer support and cost a lot less ($100k+ less) than custom. Could be good option for people that don’t care about the “cool” custom brands. Can even use the 1/2 bed setup as a desk for YouTube videos, insta posts and working remote.

Only change I would make is too bad it’s a cassette toilet. Porta Potti would be better for full flexibility and using it outside the van in a privy tent.

[Scottbaldassari]

Do you have a link to anything about the "Roam". I am not finding anything...

[Boxster1971]

Originally Posted by Scottbaldassari

Do you have a link to anything about the "Roam". I am not finding anything...

Also could not find anything on the Tiffin Cahaba. What is source of info on these new models?

[gregmchugh]

Originally Posted by Boxster1971

Also could not find anything on the Tiffin Cahaba. What is source of info on these new models?

Tiffin has been posting teaser photos on Instagram

[Boxster1971]

Originally Posted by gregmchugh

Tiffin has been posting teaser photos on Instagram

Thanks - I forgot to check Instagram.

From Instagram got link to the dedicated web site.

https://tiffincahaba.com

[Rocinante]

Originally Posted by Boxster1971

Thanks - I forgot to check Instagram.

From Instagram got link to the dedicated web site.

https://tiffincahaba.com

Clearly needs more lights shining all over the place.

[AliceRV]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-vlpY8z7uQ

Interesting but no hot water, toilet (portable doesn't count) or shower.

[Rocinante]

Nope, not pooping in a bucket in the middle of the van.

[gregmchugh]

Originally Posted by Rocinante

Clearly needs more lights shining all over the place.

You are right, looks like they have the sides and back covered for lighting and maybe a led light bar above the cab to get a wide angle light in front. Could still use some long range driving lights to supplement the high beams. I am a fan of having lights wherever they might be needed. Don’t need to have them on when not needed of course…

[GeorgeRa]

Originally Posted by AliceRV

Interesting but no hot water, toilet (portable doesn't count) or shower.

Cost cutting, having LPG they could use a Truma Combi.

[GeorgeRa]

Gravity fill from inside the van, at least it should be closer to rear or sliding door.

Shower privacy curtain with cold water, ouch. With Truma Combi it would cost $125K.

It seems as Southco M1 round latches are gaining popularity in the commercial world.

Interesting buzzer alarm for rated seats when engine is on to make sure customers will not drive with seat rotated 180 degree.

[BillsPaseo]

Originally Posted by GeorgeRa

Interesting buzzer alarm for rated seats when engine is on to make sure customers will not drive with seat rotated 180 degree.

Our Paseo came with that stupid alarm. I'm never going to drive it down the road with the seat swiveled, but if I need to move the van a few feet in a campsite, or go to the dump station in the campground, or even just run the engine to charge the batteries, I don't want to have to swivel the seat around to do that.

That alarm was seriously obnoxious... so I removed it. Easy to put it back if I ever go to sell the van and the new owner has an issue with that (not that I have any intention of selling this van any time in the next 10 years).

[gregmchugh]

So, will the Tiffin Cahaba be this Thor product rebadged or something different. Hopefully something different more aligned with an adventure van…

https://www.comoxvalleyrv.com/rv-inv...pd-mbs/607608/

[rockymtnb]

Originally Posted by gregmchugh

So, will the Tiffin Cahaba be this Thor product [Sanctuary] rebadged or something different. Hopefully something different more aligned with an adventure van…

I was thinking (hoping?) the Thor Borg would not yet have fully assimilated Tiffin's designers. But time will tell. Thor did eventually yield some management autonomy back to Airstream after customer complaints of quality declines.

That Thor Sanctuary Sprinter 144 4x4 had been soft released earlier this year to dealers and social media influencers. Looks like they've finally added Sanctuary, and its Tranquility brand-mate twin, to the official Thor Motor Coach website:

https://www.thormotorcoach.com/motor...mes/sanctuary/

[PaulB-2006 T4R]

Originally Posted by rockymtnb

I was thinking (hoping?) the Thor Borg would not yet have fully assimilated Tiffin's designers. But time will tell. Thor did eventually yield some management autonomy back to Airstream after customer complaints of quality declines.

That Thor Sanctuary Sprinter 144 4x4 had been soft released earlier this year to dealers and social media influencers. Looks like they've finally added Sanctuary, and its Tranquility brand-mate twin, to the official Thor Motor Coach website:

https://www.thormotorcoach.com/motor...mes/sanctuary/

La Mesa RV in San Diego is selling the Thor Tranquility, the sales guy said the Tranquility is a LaMesa exclusive model.

[rockymtnb]

Airstream's Interstate 24X is another new entry from Thor in the adventure van wannabe market:

• Sprinter 4x4 24ft chassis with All Terrain tires
• Timberline diesel fired air/water heating (same as 2020.5+ Revel)
• Modular lengthwise rear bed/seating
• L-track ceiling, wall, floor mounts with overhead soft storage bins
• Battleborn 2x 100 Ah Lithium batteries
• Macho light bar and red trim fabric stitching...

Other design elements are more conventional - LPG Onan generator, propane cooktop, microwave, etc.

https://www.airstream.com/touring-co...nterstate-24x/

[GeorgeRa]

Originally Posted by rockymtnb

Airstream's Interstate 24X is another new entry from Thor in the adventure van wannabe market:

• Sprinter 4x4 24ft chassis with All Terrain tires
  
• Timberline diesel fired air/water heating (same as 2020.5+ Revel)
• Modular lengthwise rear bed/seating
• L-track ceiling, wall, floor mounts with overhead soft storage bins
• Battleborn 2x 100 Ah Lithium batteries
• Macho light bar and red trim fabric stitching...

Other design elements are more conventional - LPG Onan generator, propane cooktop, microwave, etc.

https://www.airstream.com/touring-co...nterstate-24x/

Just wonder why Airstream chose Timberline system by small company - Elwell which uses furnace made by Russian company Advers. Advers products are sold by European distributor - Autoterm in Latvia or NA distributor - Planar in Canada. There is a lot of Espar/Eberspacher or Webasto know how in NA, not much Planars which are not very well known here.

Timberline manual is very uninformative, didn’t change much since I look at it a while back. Hopefully Airstream will provide a better operation and maintenance manual.

https://elwellcorp.com/wp-content/up...-2021-2022.pdf

[rockymtnb]

Correction - Winnebago Roam is the accessibility enhanced version of the Promaster 159 chassis camper. Winnebago's Transit based campervan apparently remains delayed by Ford chassis production issues.

Roam includes a built-in wheelchair lift, tie-downs, accessible storage, and low-threshold bath entrance:

https://sv.winnebago.com/models/prod...ductID=PROD558

[gregmchugh]

Tiffin Cahaba coming tomorrow…

https://mailchi.mp/tiffinmotorhomes....y?e=8de603f52f