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06-30-2017, 05:17 PM
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Under the Volcano -- Views from the Other Side
DW and I just returned from a 2 week trip to Iceland, which included a 10 day trip around the Ring Road in a rented class-C camper. Aside from Iceland being dangerously awesome, this was an interesting trip for several reasons:
—First of all, we are confirmed long-time B-vanners, and this was our very first experience with any other kind of RV.
—Secondly, Iceland is part of Europe, and RVing there is very much in the European mode—both in the design and construction of vehicles and in the way campgrounds work.
—Thirdly, Iceland is a totally unique place—different in many ways from anywhere else we have visited.
I thought I would start this thread as a place to report back to my tribe our impressions on all of these things—especially the first two. I don’t mean it primarily as a travelog, but I will try to inject some local color here and there. There is a lot to report—I will chip away at it a little at a time. So, stay tuned for some views from the other side—the other side of the Atlantic; the other side of the B/C divide; and the other side of RV market.
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06-30-2017, 05:27 PM
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The Rig
The vehicle we rented was a 2013 Sunlight T64, built on a Fiat Ducato diesel chassis. Manual transmission. Sunlight is a European Hymer brand. It has no obvious relationship with the USA B-van branded “Sunlight”. Seems bizarre that Hymer marketing would foment such confusion, but, whatever.
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Sunlights are a very popular rental van in Iceland—you see them everywhere. It proved to be a very practical vehicle for our purposes. It is somewhat spartan—mostly hard surfaces, no TV, no Microwave, fabric instead of pleather uphulstury. But it is very well though-out and extremely well-built. Everything was properly designed, engineered, and assembled out of proper components. No sign of ad hoc carpentry anywhere. Excellent hardware, very good window and shade mechanisms. Crucially in the land of the midnight sun, there were very effective black-out shades. Very nice dry-bath, with a tiny but effective shower. Cassette toilet, of course, and a separate gray tank. More on these later.
We rented the unit from a small family-owned rental company that we found on AirBnB. Highly recommended. By all accounts, the large commercial RV rental places in Iceland are nightmare to deal with. Our experience couldn’t have been better.
https://www.campersiniceland.com/our...light-2013/770
I will address our impressions of B vs C travel later, but suffice it to say here that this was a very comfortable rig, and of course quite roomy compared to what we are used to.
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06-30-2017, 06:18 PM
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I am looking forward to see more about your trip. Sunlight’s large factory can effort an engineering staff paying attention to detail from CAD through Computer Aided Manufacturing. I was always impressed with Sunlight quality, less shine with better fit and finish. Good observation – no carpet nor vinyl/foam/ply patches.
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07-01-2017, 02:45 PM
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The Ring Road
The island of Iceland is basically a large, active volcano located on the boundary at which the North America and Eurasian tectonic plates are pulling apart from each other. The center region of the island is mountainous, rugged, and mostly glacial. Nobody lives there. The entire population resides around the perimeter, mostly in coastal communities. It is geologically very young and very active, so there are waterfalls and lava fields galore. There are no forests and very few trees (apparently the Vikings chopped them all down 1000 years ago).
The “E ticket” attraction in Iceland is a circumnavigation of the island on Route 1, better known as the “Ring Road”. This is an 828 mile 2-lane loop around the island. Unless you are a truly rabid bicyclist (and apparently there are quite a few of these), there are basically three practical ways to do this: (a) drive and stay in hotels; (b) rent a little camper-van (basically a mini-van with a bed); and (c) rent a real RV (or if you are from Europe, bring your own—but there is no ferry service from North America). Here is the poop on each:
(a) Drive/hotels — This is easy enough, and a decent choice if your standards aren’t too high. The population of Iceland is 334,000, of which 217,000 live in greater Reykjavík. Most of the rest are in a few small coastal cities. This doesn’t leave a lot of people spread out over 800 miles. There are tiny little villages at intervals (often just a gas station/convenience store and a few houses). Accommodations range from hostels and little guest houses up to small local hotels (no chains). They are not luxurious, and neither are the restaurants.
(b) Camper-vans — These are SUVs or minivans painted in garish graphics and configured with beds and sometimes primitive kitchens. No plumbing. This is the most cost-effective option, popular with young people. They are practical because most campgrounds have showers and cooking facilities (more on this later) and every little town has a public swimming pool with shower facilities.
(c) RVs — This is also a very popular option, comprising mostly class C rigs, and some B vans. They are a lot more expensive than the camper vans, but they are popular—you see them everywhere. The parking lot of every attraction will almost always have a few.
The Ring Road is an almost completely paved, good-quality road. It is 2-lanes in most places. The exceptions are (a) near Reykjavík, where there are short stretches of 4-lane highway; and (b) the bridges, which are mostly single-lane. There is no traffic control. People just take turns:
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The driving is mostly pretty easy, although the roads and bridges are often pretty narrow—especially in the mountains. The biggest challenge is that the roads, in addition to being narrow, are generally raised above the surrounding volcanic terrain and there are almost no guard rails. As a result, a moment of inattention or a sudden gust of coastal wind can produce a camper lying on its side. Also, there are free-range sheep everywhere and few fences. They are mostly well-disciplined, but it is not unusual for them to wander onto the road:
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The roads off the ring leading to attractions are usually dirt and often pretty rough, but people take their rigs there anyway. The speed limit is mostly 90kph, reducing to 70 in tunnels and other tricky places and 30 in towns. Enforcement is strict but sparse. Except around the capital, police are few and far between. There are lots of automated radar signs, with a touch of whimsey:
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They are very serious about DUI. The legal blood alcohol level is very low. I was stopped one morning pulling out of a campground (near the capital) for a random breathalyzer test. They were checking for all-night partiers.
We took 11 days/10 nights to drive the Ring Road. It was about right. We were able to see most of what we were interested in. Much shorter would have started to seem like a forced march.
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07-01-2017, 02:58 PM
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Thanks for the report.
Now you got me interested in going.
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07-01-2017, 04:46 PM
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What a wonderful write-up! The pictures are really descriptive and you covered all the important stuff! Looks like it was a wonderful trip - thanks for sharing!
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07-01-2017, 05:36 PM
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Thank you for the write-up. Did you see any residual signs from the 08-financial crisis, it hit Iceland more than many other countries?
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07-01-2017, 10:36 PM
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Thank you for the write-up. Did you see any residual signs from the 08-financial crisis, it hit Iceland more than many other countries?
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Nothing overt. Iceland has become kind of trendy, and there has been a huge spike in tourism, so they are feeling pretty prosperous right now. However, references to the crisis did come up several times in casual conversation: Things like "construction on that building was delayed by the financial crisis" and such. Much like Americans would speak about 9/11. Happened often enough for me to notice, so it is definitely still on people's minds.
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07-01-2017, 10:43 PM
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Cheap flights to Iceland
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07-01-2017, 11:02 PM
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Another place in EU with vastly uninhabited places is Norway. We drove from Oslo to Bergen and about 1/3 of the way to Trondheim along the west coast fiords, absolutely gorgeous scenery. Narrow roads, often single lane with long tunnels like 7.5 km long. Still planning to go to Trondheim but we will fly.
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07-02-2017, 01:11 AM
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When I was in the Navy we were give three choices for our first duty. I put in Reykjavik, Iceland, Adak, Alaska and a ship. I got the ship.
Ever since I wonder about going there but I have too many places to go before. This January we will go on a package tour to Australia and New Zealand and then stay over after the tour in New Zealand visiting friends.
I had an obsession with Wales and I got there. I have an obsession with Finland as well.
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07-29-2017, 05:31 PM
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Campgrounds
Past time for another installment...
Campgrounds in Iceland are plentiful. You can find them most anywhere along the ring road and elsewhere. Every town of any size has at least one, typically within easy walking distance to the town center.
The style of the campgrounds is quite different from what I am used to in the US. [Note, however, that we almost always camp at state parks, BLM lands, and other public facilities. The Iceland facilities might seem less unusual to those who frequent commercial campgrounds.] I've never camped elsewhere in Europe, but I gather that the Icelandic campgrounds are similar to those found on the continent.
The campgrounds are typically simply large, open fields. Some have demarcated parking places, others do not. You pull up to the office, hand them your credit card [cash is all but unnecessary anywhere in Iceland]. They give you a receipt that you place on your dash. You then drive in and park anywhere you like. It might be possible to make a reservation in advance, but I don't think anybody ever bothers. There are almost always plenty of slots, especially out in the boonies.
Here are some campgrounds in which we stayed:
Most but not all of them have dump stations, which are free to use. Everyone uses cassette toilets (more on that anon), so the blackwater dumps are designed for them. Greywater is handled via a storm-drain-like grid that you pull over. The drain pipes on the rigs don't have hoses. Here is a typical dump station showing us dumping our grey tank:
Most campgrounds have optional electric hookups for a minority of the sites. You pay a small additional fee for the right to hookup.
Power is 220VAC, so thinner cords can be used. The same 3-prong plugs and sockets are used on the vehicle and on the power stations. Instead of separate power stands at each campsite, they have clusters of outlets. Consequently, everybody has very long cords, which is OK because they are so thin:
The campgrounds generally have public restrooms. Most but not all have showers. This is often included in the campground fees, but sometimes cost extra. We used the shower in our rig, but they looked mostly pretty nice. They are segregated by gender, but are otherwise more communal than most Americans are used to. (I didn't take pics ). Many campgrounds have facilities for cooking and laundry, and often a communal area where folks gather. They are sometimes quite nice:
These facilities are popular among the many folks who travel in SUV-sized campers, rather than full-sized RVs like ours.
As a final note: you will find many claims on the Internet that in Iceland it is OK to just pull over on the side of the road or up a farm lane to boondock. This apparently was once common practice, but we saw no evidence that this is still the norm around the Ring Road (and the law apparently changed a few years ago). Things may be different in the interior.
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12-14-2021, 08:38 PM
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Nice stuff. Our neighbour is planning a similar ring road RV trip in 2022. We are also interested in Iceland. Did you ever consider renting a 4x4 and going into the Highlands?
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12-14-2021, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sensfan
Nice stuff. Our neighbour is planning a similar ring road RV trip in 2022. We are also interested in Iceland. Did you ever consider renting a 4x4 and going into the Highlands?
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We were there in late June, and most of the roads inland were still closed due to snow and mud. On the plus side, that time of year you get to see the midnight sun.
When we go back (and we very likely will), we will consider a guided trip into the mountains. Likely see more than if we tried it on our own. They have some amazing vehicles.
That was one of our best trips ever. Not to be missed.
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12-14-2021, 09:52 PM
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Your MH is the same as our Trend built on the Ram ProMaster 3500. Was stationed there in 1963-64 as part of my 2 years reserve active duty at the Naval Station Keflavik hospital as a corpsman. Limited to one year duty as restricted to only 25% allowed off base at a time. Second year aboard destroyer in Florida. Took several guided tours while there and even the whaling dock. Remember midnight softball games playing. Only 2 hours of daylight during the winter. Would like to go back sometime with wife to see the island again.
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12-15-2021, 05:33 AM
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I also did two weeks in iceland years ago , but I was a ford transit connect! That trip is what got me into vans.
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12-15-2021, 03:16 PM
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... I was a ford transit connect! That trip is what got me into vans.
How did you find the transit?
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12-15-2021, 11:16 PM
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... I was a ford transit connect! That trip is what got me into vans.
How did you find the transit?
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It was very tight for two adults, but thankfully we love each other
It was nice and easy to drive and when we went, you could camp pretty much anywhere that wasn't private land. We did the full 2 weeks without any hotel stays. We did stay at camp grounds a few nights for some showers.
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Originally Posted by nebulight
It was very tight for two adults, but thankfully we love each other
... you could camp pretty much anywhere that wasn't private land. We did the full 2 weeks without any hotel stays. We did stay at camp grounds a few nights for some showers.
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Thanks. And how easy or difficult is it to determine if land is not private?
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12-24-2021, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Davydd
When I was in the Navy we were give three choices for our first duty. I put in Reykjavik, Iceland, Adak, Alaska and a ship. I got the ship.
Ever since I wonder about going there but I have too many places to go before. This January we will go on a package tour to Australia and New Zealand and then stay over after the tour in New Zealand visiting friends.
I had an obsession with Wales and I got there. I have an obsession with Finland as well.
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ENJOY NZ, it was a great country to grow up in.
Have not been back in 36 years.
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