Lot's of possible floor plans with Promaster

[wincrasher]

How pretty is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flj5eRxZRCY

[youtube:1jxd0ulr]Flj5eRxZRCY[/youtube:1jxd0ulr]

Although this one is a short wheelbase, look at the windows! And the painted front bumper and trim bits.

[gerrym51]

Originally Posted by wincrasher

How pretty is this?

Although this one is a short wheelbase, look at the windows! And the painted front bumper and trim bits.

Nice

[wincrasher]

And this is what's coming! Probably next year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-uMsparhAM

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[wincrasher]

Those Europeans have a lot of neat design ideas - check this one out. Very slick and modern looking.

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Note the drawer style fridge. The skylight is amazing with the high roof. I suppose that fairing hides all the clutter up top.

On another model they make, the bath has a flip-down sink in the shower, which I think is a cool idea.

This one can be configured without the dinette in front, but have a side facing sofa, which I think would be better.

[obgraham]

Hmm. No bed except the sofas (sorry, "settees")?

[wincrasher]

If you need more ideas, here's almost all of them!

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[Davydd]

I'm pretty sure that is the same video posted last year. I took the time then to look up all the web sites for each one. They were good last year. I haven't checked them. But here they are. So, which one did you like best?

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Here is an RVs in England YouTube Video That compares 15 different RVs similar to the Ram Promaster van. You can decide if the Winnebago Travato is a good design effort compared to so many other solutions shown here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-h8ruMK ... e=youtu.be

I noted all 15 in order and then Googled their websites for more detailed information.

1. Autocruise Rhythm
http://www.swiftgroup.co.uk/motorhomes/ ... ns/layouts

2. Murvi Morello
http://www.murvi.co.uk/products/the-morello/

3. Pilote Aventura F600 DGA
http://www.pilote.fr/en/index.php?page=gamme&id_gamme=1

4. Horizons Ikon
http://www.horizonsleisurevehicles.co.u ... _ikon.html

5. Tribute 669
http://www.tributemotorhomes.co.uk/tribute-669

6. Rapido V53
http://www.rapido.fr/sites/gbr/en/prod. ... serie=vans

7. Globecart Globescout RD Style
http://www.globecarmotorhomes.co/the-ra ... style.html

8. Wildax Aurora
http://www.wildaxmotorhomes.com/wildax-aurora

9. Devon Aztec
http://devonconversions.co.uk/motorhome/fiat-aztec/

10. Auto-Sleeper Kemerton
http://www.auto-sleepers.co.uk/vans/peu ... t-kemerton

11. Vantage Sol
http://www.vantagemotorhomes.co.uk/sol- ... e-info.php

12. Auto-Sleeper Windrush
http://www.auto-sleepers.co.uk/vans/peu ... t-windrush

13. Shire Phoenix 2ML
http://www.shiremotorhomes.co.uk/motorh ... ix2ml.html

14. Autocruise Accent
http://www.swiftgroup.co.uk/motorhomes/ ... ns/layouts

15. Adria Twin GT
http://www.adriagt.co.uk/

[wincrasher]

I was surprised that the front lounge on so many was just like the Travato. Also looking thru them, many of the parts you see are originated thru the same suppliers to use in the Travato. I do like the one that had the flip up full width bed in the back. At least that van can be used for hauling duties if you aren't camping.

My next van will likely be a custom. So many ideas in each of them - little things that I think can be applied to a custom built unit.

My favorite? None of them in the last video! I like the Shire Pheonix 2XL I posted in the original posting.

The more I think about it - I like the front lounge. I especially like nothing blocking the wide sliding doorway. I like the mid galley. And I like the full width bath with sink on one side, commode on other, and shower in center.

If this arrangement was applied to a Sprinter, or god forbid, a Transit, you'd have another 3 feet to either lengthen the galley or add a storage area behind the bath. I'm not sure at this point I'd want a longer van. I like the 20' length of the Promaster as it is, and I'm more enamored with the FWD than I was originally.

[wincrasher]

How cool is this one?

[youtube:1s3zdw1v]UUMvxgh-2laWHApNnFFxJBMg[/youtube:1s3zdw1v]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukau...aWHApNnFFxJBMg

I thought Westfalia was VW only, but I suppose not.

[Davydd]

Westfalia made its name marketing the Volkswagen microbus but they have been in the conversion business with different models. Here is the Sprinter James Cook which was briefly sold as an Airstream Westfalia back in 2005.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0VKU6PxntY

Westfalia is a first class converter with a lot of innovative designs. Theirs might be the best Fiat design yet that I like.

[wincrasher]

That is cool with the automotive sunroof. You'd think more would do that, but it's probably expensive.

Comparing these two videos, I think I can see why the Ducato units are so popular - that extra width makes a big difference.

[wincrasher]

How the Germans do it....

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