Hymer Aktiv?

[gregmchugh]

Originally Posted by BobB

I would be very happy with one of the Hymer Van series

I am sure they would be happy to take your order...

[gregmchugh]

Browsing the info on the Grand Canyon model in Europe I found two interesting items.

Here is a Hymer accessories brochure, some of the items would seem to generic and might be usable in any Promaster such as the child's bed for the front seats...

https://www.hymer.com/de/service-und...=1976&dl=start

The other item I found was a Hymer price sheet for the UK with all the possible options shown. In Europe there is a dizzying range of options available including a wide selection of interior fabrics. They must have a very disciplined manufacturing process to handle the number of possible build configurations. I would not expect to see option lists like these over here....

https://www.hymer.com/de/service-und...=1938&dl=start

[markopolo]

This may have been posted already.

Hymer accessories store:

Homepage HYMER Original Teile & Zubehör

English:

http://www.hymer-original-zubehör.co...re=hoetzb2c_de

Some English links were broken when I previously browsed through it.

It would be great to have that in North America. Safari Condo has an online store: http://safaricondoacc.com/boutique/en/

[wincrasher]

Some cool things in that store. Not sure they sell many of the "shoe cupboard" for 1100 euros!

[ClassB4Me]

ECOTrek for HYMER products

Has there been any mention of incorporating ECOTrek technology in the ACTIV?

What is the verdict thus far on the stability of the technology for those who own RoadTreks? Is it a worthy substitute or a on-board generator?

[wincrasher]

It's on the brochure, FWIW. Choose either Eco 200 or 400.

[GeorgeB]

Originally Posted by gregmchugh

Browsing the info on the Grand Canyon model in Europe I found two interesting items.
Here is a Hymer accessories brochure, some of the items would seem to generic and might be usable in any Promaster such as the child's bed for the front seats...
https://www.hymer.com/de/service-und...=1976&dl=start

We will quickly learn german with Hymer on our mind!

Yes, I've been browsing that online store for a while. My passion for campers quickly got me on various german websites and online magazines [like the excellent ProMobil mag, available on iTunes] No wonder I added a K on my Kampervan blog [https://flipboard.com/@gogeorges/kampervan-u5qd3sehy]

Because we have a huge cargo space under our platform bed, I am playing with the idea of structuring it more. Planning to build a sliding rack for the bikes (I've built a platform, but would like it to slide out) and eventually installing or building something like the Stapelbox Aluminum box on sliding rails. [ http://www.hymer-original-zubehör.co...aluminium.html ]


Our storage space with elevating platform bed




The Stapelbox Aluminum box on sliding rails. [ http://www.hymer-original-zubehör.co...aluminium.html ]




The inspiration for the sliding bike rack

[gregmchugh]

Originally Posted by ClassB4Me

ECOTrek for HYMER products

Has there been any mention of incorporating ECOTrek technology in the ACTIV?

What is the verdict thus far on the stability of the technology for those who own RoadTreks? Is it a worthy substitute or a on-board generator?

Recent deliveries of the ecotrek lithium battery modules and the underhood engine generator on the Zion have been working fine so I would expect the same on the Aktiv which also uses the same inverter as the Zion.

[gregmchugh]

The only thing I noticed that was a little odd on the Aktiv was the grey water drain having a full size sewer hose connection. I would think a connection to a 1 inch hose with an adapter at the sewer drain would make more sense. Smaller hose to lug around and you could move the drain line up a little to avoid possible damage.

[GeorgeB]

News from the front!

(I admit this secrecy with FB groups is really stupid: playing the game of covering up names to protect the identity of members when this info should be made public for a while now)

Anyway here's what Jim is saying about the AKTIV




And the answer after the break...

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[GeorgeB]

And the answer is?

Available in Canada [i guess earlier in the US] in ...three months ish.

[ClassB4Me]

Originally Posted by GeorgeB

We will quickly learn german with Hymer on our mind!

Yes, I've been browsing that online store for a while. My passion for campers quickly got me on various german websites and online magazines [like the excellent ProMobil mag, available on iTunes] No wonder I added a K on my Kampervan blog [https://flipboard.com/@gogeorges/kampervan-u5qd3sehy]

Because we have a huge cargo space under our platform bed, I am playing with the idea of structuring it more. Planning to build a sliding rack for the bikes (I've built a platform, but would like it to slide out) and eventually installing or building something like the Stapelbox Aluminum box on sliding rails. [ http://www.hymer-original-zubehör.co...aluminium.html ]

Our storage space with elevating platform bed




The Stapelbox Aluminum box on sliding rails. [ http://www.hymer-original-zubehör.co...aluminium.html ]




The inspiration for the sliding bike rack

Wonder why more manufacturers don't do a raised / power platform bed? Looks like a great space saver.

[GeorgeB]

Front paged the launch on my blog. Thanks Davydd for being our on site reporter with these excellent photos of the new Beast in town!

https://flipboard.com/@gogeorges/kampervan-u5qd3sehy





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[cruisefx]

Originally Posted by ClassB4Me

Wonder why more manufacturers don't do a raised / power platform bed? Looks like a great space saver.

I asked that question to Dean at LTV a couple of years ago and he indicated that the North Americans don't like to 'climb up' into bed. I told him that if people wanted to drive Class Bs then the manufacturers need to find a way for us to store stuff without a hitch and/or bike carrier. The more active bunch who drive Class Bs to get out to 'see and do' versus 'park at a campground' would appreciate it. I think that Safari Condo's Flex bed, Winnebage Travato G and now the Hymer Aktiv are moving in the right direction.

[markopolo]

IMO, the Hymer Aktiv sleeping arrangement has to tried before buying particularly if it is for a couple. Try getting both on the bed and off the bed with your partner there.

A cocktail or two first would help simulate a 4AM pitstop (attempt at humor)

I have that crossways sleeping setup in my van and had to cancel a winter trip south because of a shoulder problem. There was no way I could get out of the bed without pain. Even fully recovered it is still not that easy getting out of the across-the-van bed. I guess it would be my last choice if choosing a bed in a van.

[cruisefx]

Originally Posted by markopolo

IMO, the Hymer Aktiv sleeping arrangement has to tried before buying particularly if it is for a couple. Try getting both on the bed and off the bed with your partner there.

A cocktail or two first would help simulate a 4AM pitstop (attempt at humor)

I have that crossways sleeping setup in my van and had to cancel a winter trip south because of a shoulder problem. There was no way I could get out of the bed without pain. Even fully recovered it is still not that easy getting out of the across-the-van bed. I guess it would be my last choice if choosing a bed in a van.

That's why I am waiting for the HymerCar Yellowstone. Same front area with the lengthwise twin beds on a 6.3m long van

[gregmchugh]

Originally Posted by cruisefx

That's why I am waiting for the HymerCar Yellowstone. Same front area with the lengthwise twin beds on a 6.3m long van

The Yellowstone is a nice floorplan...

[troyd]

Originally Posted by BobB

From RT site:

"Erwin Hymer Group will rely on the existing Roadtrek Motorhomes Inc. management team in order to introduce further EHG brands – first and foremost HymerCar – into the North American market."

IMO, the biggest meta-mistake Hymer could make is retaining Roadtrek's management team, up to and including Hammill. If Roadtrek was going to create groundbreaking products, encourage and learn from public criticism, or emphasize build quality, they'd have already done so.

They've done the opposite, often in what felt like senior management's approach to business (for example, the reaction to TheFitRV).

It's very possible that RT's shareholders fully supported past decisions and that they worked. They don't show the values that Hymer seems to have, though, and I don't they're what one would do to build a 25 or 50 year business. Hammill's team may have been fine or even good for a standalone business focused on short-term returns, but they're wrong for Hymer. This seems pretty obvious from the outside.

So, I'm surprised Hymer hasn't already replaced RT's management.

I'd feel completely differently if Hymer had acquired Safari or Van Specialties. "Keep doing what you're doing, just do more of it! In case it helps, here's more capital, bulk purchase agreements with lower unit costs, and a few high-volume processes we've used" would make sense. Both companies are already thriving with what looks like a Hymer-like approach.

OTOH, with RT, they should bring in Hymer management.

Troy (hoping the cassette toilet stays)

[GeorgeB]

Originally Posted by troyd

IMO, the biggest meta-mistake Hymer could make is retaining Roadtrek's management team, up to and including Hammill. If Roadtrek was going to create groundbreaking products, encourage and learn from public criticism, or emphasize build quality, they'd have already done so.

They've done the opposite, often in what felt like senior management's approach to business (for example, the reaction to TheFitRV).
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So, I'm surprised Hymer hasn't already replaced RT's management.
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OTOH, with RT, they should bring in Hymer management.

Troy (hoping the cassette toilet stays)

I agree totally that the actual RT management doesn't fit with HYMER's culture, but they invested in a business. And they don't want to scare the existing customer base. They are going slow because they don't want to jeopardize their investment in RT first.

It takes time to reunite two B's hives. The best way to do it is to put a newspaper between the two hives. After a while the bees don't recognize the smell of the other group and get along fine. ! OK that's a bit too cute

[GeorgeB]

Originally Posted by markopolo

IMO, the Hymer Aktiv sleeping arrangement has to tried before buying particularly if it is for a couple.
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I guess it would be my last choice if choosing a bed in a van.

I agree, North-South beds are the best. The extra 16 inch in the extended 159 WB of the Pro/Ducato, with a total length of 20'-11" (6m) offers that possibility.

And I agree with CruiseFx the Hymer Yellowstone will be the one for extra sleep confort. What will they call it? THE ÜBER AKTIV!

Some recent European vans have longitudinal beds in the short 19'-7" (5,99m) Fiat Ducato like the Westfalia 600E.

But like they say in the review it's like fitting "a quart into a pint pot".

The review of the 600E in Out&About Live:
https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/mo...-review/900215



....and the video, now that everyone had their crash course in German sponsored by Hymer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1sr2WJj6O0

The Westfalia Amundsen 600E catalog
http://www.westfalia-mobil.net/en/do...N_2016_web.pdf






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