Good decision getting a Class B RV?

[mtmdatlanta]

Thar was for an unloaded van. When outfitted for the Paseo, it would weigh considerably more, so the 12.2 still looks plausible.

[Roadtrek Adventuous RS1]

Originally Posted by GallenH

I don't think I would have bought a RV if this one hadn't fallen in my lap.

Well, you certainly can't complain about the price and depreciation is zero... And, it has only 62,000 miles... you got it at 45,000. WOW.... fantastic.

So, you put a few thousand dollars in to the vehicle... you're so far ahead of everyone else on the forum....

Yes, good tires, shocks and brakes are essentials.

Even if you just have to keep it running with some money, the fun factor is really high.... congratulations.

Post a picture of the rig....too bad your father in law only had 5 years... often, this is a very familiar story.

That is why I decided to just get an RV before I was too old. You never know.... we've already seen a few friends pass away unexpectedly early.

Safe travels.

[Bud]

Originally Posted by mtmdatlanta

Thar was for an unloaded van. When outfitted for the Paseo, it would weigh considerably more, so the 12.2 still looks plausible.

I don't understand, or you don't?

The 'Car and Driver' result was with a 5423 pound van that was not a hightop or as long, weighed noticeably less than a Paseo, much less and got 15.3 in a quarter mile. So the Paseo with be anoticeably longer time than 15.3. 12.2 is ?????

What would a Paseo quarter time be like? Anyone?

-An empty Transit, not dually, shorter with Ecoboost 5423 pounds at 15.3 seconds

A Paseo at what? 9000 pounds would be what?19-21 seconds?

Each of the Vans will walk off from any Sprinter though.

Bud

[Roadtrek Adventuous RS1]

Originally Posted by Bud

I don't understand, or you don't?

The 'Car and Driver' result was with a 5423 pound van that was not a hightop or as long, weighed noticeably less than a Paseo, much less and got 15.3 in a quarter mile. So the Paseo with be anoticeably longer time than 15.3. 12.2 is ?????

What would a Paseo quarter time be like? Anyone?

-An empty Transit, not dually, shorter with Ecoboost 5423 pounds at 15.3 seconds

A Paseo at what? 9000 pounds would be what?19-21 seconds?

Each of the Vans will walk off from any Sprinter though.

Bud

Seriously????
Each of the Vans will walk off from any Sprinter though.

I have not done any 0-60 runs in my Sprinter 3500....but, the way you described it is that it's slower from 0-60 than my old 1970 VW Beetle.....? I don't think so....

Besides, who's racing an RV? They are not meant for this.

I can tell you one thing.... climbing hills? My Sprinter doesn't slow down on long mountain passes... can you please let me know how your gasoline engine is doing in these situations.... Then... we'll talk...

Not to mention the MPG I'm getting on the road....18-19 MPG....

[Bud]

"Seriously????
Each of the Vans will walk off from any Sprinter though."

Yes.

Bud

[Bud]

Originally Posted by Bud

"Seriously????
Each of the Vans will walk off from any Sprinter though."

Yes.

Bud

Sorry, I forgot the rest of your post.

"I have not done any 0-60 runs in my Sprinter 3500....but, the way you described it is that it's slower from 0-60 than my old 1970 VW Beetle.....?"

Never mentioned your beetle, but:

"I don't think so..."

It appears that I would guess a 1970 Beetle will win the quarter mile by just a little BASED on the power to weight ratios.

"Besides, who's racing an RV? They are not meant for this."

"I don't recall and am too lazy to google it, but yes RV's have been raced. Unlikely any sprinter would be entered.

"I can tell you one thing.... climbing hills? My Sprinter doesn't slow down on long mountain passes... can you please let me know how your gasoline engine is doing in these situations.... Then... we'll talk..."

No Thanks, but good to hear your happy with the hills.

"Not to mention the MPG I'm getting on the road....18-19 MPG...."

Sprinters cost more regardless of fuel mileage. I get about 14-25 depending on speed, wind, terrain, ..............

Bud

[rowiebowie]

Are we confusing 0-60 with quarter mile acceleration times?

Editorial Comment:
There is only one way to resolve the question of acceleration times. Therefore, I propose the first Class B Winternationals drag race. I volunteer to host in Corpus Christi, TX in January each year. We can have head-to-head categories for class B's (Early Sprinters, Newer Sprinters, Chevys, Fords, Dodges and Promasters). Maybe even an open class for each.

Roy Jarbeaux (future head of the MHRA*)

*- Motor Home Racing Association

[booster]

Originally Posted by rowiebowie

Are we confusing 0-60 with quarter mile acceleration times?

Editorial Comment:
There is only one way to resolve the question of acceleration times. Therefore, I propose the first Airstream Winternationals drag race. I volunteer to host in Corpus Christi, TX in January each year. We can have head-to-head categories for class B's, Airsteam trailers by sizes, gas tow vehicles, diesel tow vehicles, and maybe an open class for each.

Roy Jarbeaux (future head of the MHTRA*)

*- Motor Home & Trailer Racing Association

It may be hard to believe, but when we drove to the Mopar Nationals car show in Ohio a long time ago, it was held at a big area that also included a drag strip where all the Mopar Muscle cars were showing off. They also had a motorhome class and it was absolutely hilarious to watch. 35+ second quarter mile times, 50- mph at the traps, antifreeze spewing out all over the place.

[Alec]

My 2018 Paseo does in fact have the 10 speed tranny.

[BillsPaseo]

Originally Posted by rowiebowie

Are we confusing 0-60 with quarter mile acceleration times?

I think so... that 12.2 seconds is 0-60 time, not 1/4 mile time.

12.2 seconds 0-60 is fast for an RV, but slow compared to just about any modern car.

[booster]

Originally Posted by BillsPaseo

I think so... that 12.2 seconds is 0-60 time, not 1/4 mile time.

12.2 seconds 0-60 is fast for an RV, but slow compared to just about any modern car.

That is about the same 0-60 that my old Escort would do, and it had just about the same #/hp ratio as our Chevy van, so I expect it might be about the same, but I am not going to try it.

[Bud]

Originally Posted by booster

That is about the same 0-60 that my old Escort would do, and it had just about the same #/hp ratio as our Chevy van, so I expect it might be about the same, but I am not going to try it.

What? You can't stand the antifreeze spewing out all over the place.

That post was a good visual, thanks for the laughter.

[Roadtrek Adventuous RS1]

Originally Posted by BillsPaseo

I think so... that 12.2 seconds is 0-60 time, not 1/4 mile time.

12.2 seconds 0-60 is fast for an RV, but slow compared to just about any modern car.

Really don't know how much slower it would be with the extra conversion weight added by the RV builder, but the cargo van empty is 0-60 in 11 or 12 seconds...

It's certainly fast enough for me... I don't have any problems getting out of way of other vehicles.

[BillsPaseo]

Originally Posted by Roadtrek Adventuous RS1

Really don't know how much slower it would be with the extra conversion weight added by the RV builder, but the cargo van empty is 0-60 in 11 or 12 seconds...

It's certainly fast enough for me... I don't have any problems getting out of way of other vehicles.

The Car & Driver test of the empty van came in at 6.8 seconds 0 to 60 mph, so 12.2 seconds is very plausible for the same van with added conversion weight. Almost double the time...

[Roadtrek Adventuous RS1]

Originally Posted by BillsPaseo

The Car & Driver test of the empty van came in at 6.8 seconds 0 to 60 mph, so 12.2 seconds is very plausible for the same van with added conversion weight. Almost double the time...

You think it's that slow?

[BillsPaseo]

Originally Posted by Roadtrek Adventuous RS1

You think it's that slow?

I think that is pretty respectable for an 8500 lb vehicle.

[mtmdatlanta]

Alec, your '18 Paseo has a 6 speed automatic. your chassis is probably a '17. In '17, the 10 speed was only available in the Ford F-150 and the Camaro ZL-1. It won't be available on any Transit until the 2020 model chassis, which means it may be available on some '20 and definitely '21 model year Coachmen Beyond models, as the Paseo will no longer be available. Winnebago still lists the '19 Paseo, and has the 6-speed listed as the sole transmission. And those are undoubtedly built on an '18 chassis. The new transmission is a Ford-GM collaboration, BTW.

[Roadtrek Adventuous RS1]

Originally Posted by BillsPaseo

I think that is pretty respectable for an 8500 lb vehicle.

With us, our gear and full tank of gas and water...it's way heavier than 8,500....

Our Sprinter 3500 170 has the dual wheels... heck, I just installed a bike rack. Our bicycles weigh 70 pounds and the rack is another 100 at least.

One thing though thing I forgot to mention is my Sprinter has a 4.10 rear end... it doesn't have a fast top end.. I think it's got a governor at 85 or 87..

I normally go 60 to 65... although it will cruise all day at 75 if I want it to.

The low gearing does probably help it off the line.

[Alec]

Six speed; you're right. I stand duly chastised!

[mtmdatlanta]

Wasn't meant to chastise; just correct information. I really like the Paseo, BTW, and I'm saddened that they ae discontinuing it. There was supposed to be another floorplan, which never made it to market. The Roadtrek Transit conversion looked promising, but that's gone too.