7yr dealer warranties on new Roadtreks

[avanti]

Originally Posted by RossWilliams

The average repair cost is the average cost of each repair. You are talking about the average of total repair bills for all their customers and it is still irrelevant to individual customer.

That is a distinction without a difference. The only thing that matters for each party is the total amount paid. It makes not the slightest difference how many transactions this is spread over. The elderly couple will, on average, come out ahead by putting their money in the bank.

If you actually believe that there are significant numbers of people who (a) Can afford a $100K vehicle, and (b) can afford a $3K service contract but (c) cannot afford an additional $3-5K (worst plausible case) in the unlikely event that something really bad happens to their vans mechanics, then I give up.

Over and out.

[booster]

The ones that seem to have the most trouble paying for unexpected repairs are the ones that probably should have reconsidered the purchase in the first place and used all their funds to buy an older and likely more prone to have breakdowns van. With no set aside for problems, it is just a matter of time. It certainly isn't unheard of for repairs of over $5000 to be needed on the road, even for the less sophisticated older vans.

[michaelingp]

Originally Posted by avanti

Not meaningless at all. The "average repair cost" is the amount paid out by the insurer, averaged across all their customers. They know that value very precisely.

How can they predict the future? Many insurance companies face huge losses because the future turned out differently than they expected. This is unlike health insurance (or more newsworthy, long term care insurance) where the insurer can update their premiums yearly.

Also, not all consumers are equal. Some are disorganized and will lose track of their extended warranty, some will sell the van, and some will not care. Others will keep meticulous records, and go through the hassle of making sure they get every repair they are entitled to.

[avanti]

Originally Posted by michaelingp

Many insurance companies face huge losses because the future turned out differently than they expected.

Really? Do tell.

[Glamper]

Regarding battery, we got one of the few Aktivs available without EcoTrek, so battery coverage not an issue for us. With that said, I think we are leavning toward 'winging it' if something breaks we will just pay to have it repaired. I see far more comments that x-Warranties are fraught with issues. And warranty repairs seem to go to bottom of the list.

[gregmchugh]

Originally Posted by avanti

Really? Do tell.

Generally this happens with hurricane damage beyond what the insurers have predicted in their estimated exposure...

[RossWilliams]

Originally Posted by avanti

That is a distinction without a difference. The only thing that matters for each party is the total amount paid. It makes not the slightest difference how many transactions this is spread over. The elderly couple will, on average, come out ahead by putting their money in the bank.

If you actually believe that there are significant numbers of people who (a) Can afford a $100K vehicle, and (b) can afford a $3K service contract but (c) cannot afford an additional $3-5K (worst plausible case) in the unlikely event that something really bad happens to their vans mechanics, then I give up.

Over and out.

Actually, its a distinction that makes a huge difference. Almost no one is average.

" It makes not the slightest difference how many transactions this is spread over."

It does to the person who has to come up with the money all at once this week instead of spread out over 6 years. Again, that is really the reason for any insurance. "On average" for the "average" person paying an "average" bill there is no need for insurance of any kind.

"Can afford a $100K vehicle"

You know, $100K is not the median price for an RV or even close. But yes, there are people who will take on a $1000/month payment and not have another $3-5K available to pay the bill if something goes wrong or it will involve some extremely painful choices. And the extra cost is nominal in terms of the monthly payment.

[stevegoldfield]

When you registered with Truma, which product did you select?

[athom]

I purchased(last week) a new 2019 Roadtrek Simplicity SRT & the 7yr. coach only warranty. It covers everything inside the coach, $200.00 deductible, if I return to the dealer where I purchased the coach deductible is $ 150.00

[booster]

Originally Posted by athom

I purchased(last week) a new 2019 Roadtrek Simplicity SRT & the 7yr. coach only warranty. It covers everything inside the coach, $200.00 deductible, if I return to the dealer where I purchased the coach deductible is $ 150.00

Does it include batteries and charging equipment?

[athom]

Charging equipment yes, but not batteries
www.iasal.ca

[Down Sized]

These aftermarket warranties are not near as good as factory warranties. I watched a 30 minute YouTube video tonight on these warranties that are being offered. Read the FINE PRINT.

[gregmchugh]

As an engineer, I realize that according to all probabilities the typical extended warranty for anything you buy is not a good purchase and I rarely get one.

I also realize that not everyone looks at the world the same way.

There are a significant number of people who don’t feel comfortable with the risk that they will have something happen that will cost a lot of money to fix. The cost of insuring against that risk gives them peace of mind.

Who am I to say that they should look at the world the same way I do and not spend the money it takes to give them peace of mind.

You can respond that playing on the fear these people feel is how the extended warranty companies get their sales but in the end, the purchasers probably feel more content.

I expect others would think that I waste money on things that don’t make sense to them but all of us are not alike and it is not going to change...

I respond to questions about extended warranties by providing a reference to a good overview of the pros and cons. If they read that and still decide to do it then I think I will not try to convince them otherwise...

[athom]

I have owned many different types of RV's in my life time ( new & used ) & I know from experience they are expensive to repair. If you are unable to fix it yourself & must pay for labor then it's twice as bad

[avanti]

Originally Posted by gregmchugh

As an engineer, I realize that according to all probabilities the typical extended warranty for anything you buy is not a good purchase and I rarely get one.

I also realize that not everyone looks at the world the same way.

There are a significant number of people who don’t feel comfortable with the risk that they will have something happen that will cost a lot of money to fix. The cost of insuring against that risk gives them peace of mind.

Who am I to say that they should look at the world the same way I do and not spend the money it takes to give them peace of mind.

You can respond that playing on the fear these people feel is how the extended warranty companies get their sales but in the end, the purchasers probably feel more content.

I expect others would think that I waste money on things that don’t make sense to them but all of us are not alike and it is not going to change...

I respond to questions about extended warranties by providing a reference to a good overview of the pros and cons. If they read that and still decide to do it then I think I will not try to convince them otherwise...

There is a difference between criticizing a product and criticizing the motives of the purchaser.

I can't personally relate to the "peace of mind" thing, but I totally respect it. My problem is when people argue that these products are a way of saving money (which is a far more common argument).

[gregmchugh]

Originally Posted by avanti

There is a difference between criticizing a product and criticizing the motives of the purchaser.

I can't personally relate to the "peace of mind" thing, but I totally respect it. My problem is when people argue that these products are a way of saving money (which is a far more common argument).

Agree with all that...

[booster]

Originally Posted by avanti

There is a difference between criticizing a product and criticizing the motives of the purchaser.

I can't personally relate to the "peace of mind" thing, but I totally respect it. My problem is when people argue that these products are a way of saving money (which is a far more common argument).

I agree also.


Sometimes people just don't have the funds available to "self insure" against a very rare worst case, even though it will be less expensive in the long run, and they don't want to be stuck with and unusable vehicle.