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01-20-2020, 06:56 PM
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What Sadist designed the ERA 170M's water heating system?
The Truma Combi water/space heater works pretty well... ESPECIALLY when you've got shore power and can run with both propane and electric heat.
My Truma system started throwing an erorr #45: No AC power.
Apparently this usually means the plug fell out of the wall socket, the GFCI tripped, or a thermal overload switch tripped.
To get access to the GFCI and the rest of the 120V side of the heater, I had to take almost everything out of my "trunk", take apart a major chunk of the trunk's wooden frame, and then have the arm flexibility of a yogi to reset the GFCI.
It works now, but Winnibago is really getting on my last nerve.
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01-20-2020, 07:42 PM
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The Paseo has a similar setup, but once I got to the outlet and saw where it was, I realized that you could reach an arm in through the little rear storage compartment and find the outlet by feel. I don't know if the Era has the same little access cubbyhole, but if it does, that makes it a lot easier to reach...
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01-20-2020, 07:44 PM
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Also, on ours that GFCI will often trip if you forget to make sure the Truma is turned off before connecting or disconnecting shore power.
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01-20-2020, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsPaseo
Also, on ours that GFCI will often trip if you forget to make sure the Truma is turned off before connecting or disconnecting shore power.
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That is, likely, EXACTLY what happened.
Given that Winnebago installed a 120V outlet in free space and plugged in the heater, I think I might look into swapping it out with a non-GFCI socket, and putting a GFCI breaker into the 120V panel... at least then it will be simpler to fix when it pops.
To the previous post, I suspect, now that I know where it is, that my wife will be able to reach the reset button... but I have these darn muscled, manly-man arms to worry about.
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01-20-2020, 08:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFatGuy
That is, likely, EXACTLY what happened.
Given that Winnebago installed a 120V outlet in free space and plugged in the heater, I think I might look into swapping it out with a non-GFCI socket, and putting a GFCI breaker into the 120V panel... at least then it will be simpler to fix when it pops.
To the previous post, I suspect, now that I know where it is, that my wife will be able to reach the reset button... but I have these darn muscled, manly-man arms to worry about.
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I'm a skinny guy, sadly I don't have the muscled manly arm problem...
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01-20-2020, 08:48 PM
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After hearing about the GFI I decided to locate mine in case it ever gives me trouble. I checked out the wiring diagram and realized all I had to do is pop off the air return grill and the outlet is sitting right there easily accessible. Glad for my sake the A has better access. I probably should have swapped it out when I had the cover off. No doubt I will pay the price down the road .
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01-20-2020, 09:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by magicbus
Glad for my sake the A has better access
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you've just summed up the RV world in a single sentence.
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01-27-2020, 02:23 AM
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Simple fix. Replace with a standard 20amp outlet. Did this over a year ago on our Travato with no issues.
Some folks are even installing a GFCI breaker in the breaker box....
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2019 Winnebago Travato K (2018 Chassis)
Past RV's: 2013 WGO ERA 70A, Chevy PW Lexor
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01-27-2020, 03:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobojay
Simple fix. Replace with a standard 20amp outlet. Did this over a year ago on our Travato with no issues.
Some folks are even installing a GFCI breaker in the breaker box....
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That's my plan... I just need to find out if the power management device (that turns the heater off in overcurrent situations) would interfere with the breaker.
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