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08-19-2018, 02:12 AM
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Using Honda Generator as Shore Power
Has any used a 3000 +/- watt honda generator as a shore power substitute. Not sure of the connections available from generators in this range so i don't know if it could connect 30 ->30 or use a 15 ->30 adapter.
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08-19-2018, 12:31 PM
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Have wondered the same thing. We have put so much time and money into the on board Onan 2800. I keep saying next time its out of there.
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08-19-2018, 01:22 PM
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I'm not looking to replace the onan, there are just times when i will have a separate genny, and i was wondering if anyone has done this...
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08-19-2018, 04:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
Have wondered the same thing. We have put so much time and money into the on board Onan 2800. I keep saying next time its out of there.
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I did reach a point where I was tired of throwing hundreds of $$$ at the previously neglected and loud Onan. Not to mention the impossibility of on trip repairs short of going to a genny shop. One year turned out to be a fuel pump and the $$$ muffler blew out. The next long trip the voltage regulator crapped out. While this is replaceable on the road without lowering it correcting the root cause is not. The final straw came when after correcting the cause(dirty slip ring) the carbbie went on the fritz. Enough was enough.
I always pull a trailer with a motorcycle in it so I mounted up a nice, quieter than Onan(though not quite as quiet as a Honda/Yamaha) Champion inverter genny on the trailer tongue. This genny comes with a remoter start/stop key fob so you don't have to go out to start it. 2800 watt continuous. 30 amp RV outlet, no adapter required. About $8-900. US based support. Three year warranty.
https://www.championpowerequipment.c...tart-inverter/
Is it as convenient as the onboard Onan? No, but it's close with the fob start. You still have to put gas in it. I'm using the same low pressure fuel pump that I rigged up external to the Onan to fill the gas tank on the Champion. Did I mention that it's (alot) quieter than the Onan even with a new $$$ muffler on it?
As a bonus my brother and I fabbed up a hinged battery carrier in place of the Onan so I can have a larger or dual batteries if I want. And battery install/removal is a lot easier than the little cubby that Roadtrek provided for the 200 series.
If for some reason we go on a trip without the trailer, installing it on a rear carrier is not that big of a deal. I built a portable ramp system to wheel it into place on the trailer or carrier and for maintenance and repair work.
All in all, I'm quite happy with the change over. I just finished a four month trip with no genny issues. Priceless.
Oh, and did I mention it's quieter than the Onan?
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08-19-2018, 04:36 PM
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SteveJ,
Thanks for the great information...
Any pictures available ?? i'd love to see the genny on the front of the trailer..
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08-19-2018, 06:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bwolfsohn
SteveJ,
Thanks for the great information...
Any pictures available ?? i'd love to see the genny on the front of the trailer..
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PM on it's way
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Tick tock, baby(Ironbuttal)
2000 Roadtrek Chevy 200 Versatile(sold)
'98 Safari Trek 2480
Just for fun:'15 Kawasaki Versys650LT
Perfection is a fantasy, though improvement is possible(Wifey).
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08-26-2018, 08:59 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: CA
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Honda Generator
I have used a new Honda EU2000i generator with my class B Travato. I had removed the Onan for reasons of noise, exhaust fumes and onerous upkeep in favor of a tiny, quiet Honda. The only adjustment I had to make was to install a soft start module on the air conditioner to allow its start-ups to stay within the amperage limit of the small inverter generator. So far its been fantastic. Much quieter, less fumes and far simpler to change oil and maintain as it's not under the van. The module is from Easy Start and its around $300. Well with the investment!
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08-27-2018, 12:50 AM
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I have a Honda EU3000is, primarily for emergency backup. I exercise it by connecting it to the Sprinter and running the roof AC. I rigged a 30-Amp RV by 30-Amp twist pigtail to connect the RV power cable to the generator.
While I have not run the AC and the electric water heater simultaneously while connected to the generator, I do believe this is a practical demonstration of using the Honda for shore power.
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08-27-2018, 02:18 AM
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I'm very careful to pay attention to what loads I place on the Honda. With the AC pulling 7 to 12 amps depending if the compressor is engaged, there's not a lot of overhead for the microwave or induction burner. I therefore balance by raising the thermostat so the AC idles if I need another appliance. I also have a 3000 watt inverter that can handle the load off my 420 Ah of lithium batts. The soft start makes it all possible in my situation. The other handy devise is the Winnebago Energy Management System, which will decide what device retains power given a shortage in available amps. It will automatically douse the AC unit should my draw require more than the supply. This is before any breakers are tripped.
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08-27-2018, 09:17 PM
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Platinum Member
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Location: Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveJ
As a bonus my brother and I fabbed up a hinged battery carrier in place of the Onan so I can have a larger or dual batteries if I want. And battery install/removal is a lot easier than the little cubby that Roadtrek provided for the 200 series.
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You and your brother built a hinged battery carrier for the RT200? I built a angle iron frame for the two batteries that replaced the Onan under my 2000C200P, but a hinged carrier sounds interesting. Any pictures available?
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08-28-2018, 12:27 AM
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Well, that didn't work.
Shoot me a PM with a phone number that I can text to.
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2000 Roadtrek Chevy 200 Versatile(sold)
'98 Safari Trek 2480
Just for fun:'15 Kawasaki Versys650LT
Perfection is a fantasy, though improvement is possible(Wifey).
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08-28-2018, 04:18 AM
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Bronze Member
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Location: CA
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Hitch-mounted Honda 2000
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05-10-2019, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gerrym51
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Finally a fuel shut off! I've been too lazy to install with what really needs it, an onan.
Quieter, lighter, and 10% more watts in the same size package!
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05-17-2019, 05:27 AM
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Curiosity. I know that the Honda carb can be outfitted to run on LP. Has anyone tried this? It would seem that if your propane system is fitted with the capability to connect external propane devices (i.e. a grill) you could run the Honda without carrying a gas can.
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05-17-2019, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GallenH
Curiosity. I know that the Honda carb can be outfitted to run on LP. Has anyone tried this? It would seem that if your propane system is fitted with the capability to connect external propane devices (i.e. a grill) you could run the Honda without carrying a gas can.
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06-06-2019, 10:55 PM
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Location: Maryland
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Our Onan is still driving me crazy! Put new fuel pump among many, many other parts 2 years ago. Guess all in all over years. I am well over $2000.00 into it. Now think fuel pump bad again. Was making knocking noise on and off. Now runs until reaching operating temperture. Then cuts off until sits for a while. Totally hate the damm thing!
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09-06-2019, 08:39 PM
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I gave up on my 2.8 Onan in my 96 Roadtrek 190. Designed and built my own front mount and mounted an EU3000IS Honda on a MasterLock mount designed for the EU3000IS. Works fantastic while stationary but when I run down the road it stops. Can't find any indication of tip-over switch in the manual or specs. Has anyone used a Honda generator running down the road. Thanx
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09-06-2019, 11:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FatOldGummer
I gave up on my 2.8 Onan in my 96 Roadtrek 190. Designed and built my own front mount and mounted an EU3000IS Honda on a MasterLock mount designed for the EU3000IS. Works fantastic while stationary but when I run down the road it stops. Can't find any indication of tip-over switch in the manual or specs. Has anyone used a Honda generator running down the road. Thanx
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maybe it just has to be level
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09-07-2019, 12:42 AM
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Location: CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FatOldGummer
I gave up on my 2.8 Onan in my 96 Roadtrek 190. Designed and built my own front mount and mounted an EU3000IS Honda on a MasterLock mount designed for the EU3000IS. Works fantastic while stationary but when I run down the road it stops. Can't find any indication of tip-over switch in the manual or specs. Has anyone used a Honda generator running down the road. Thanx
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Will it run when you are stationary on a hill?
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