small dash board solar trickal charger 5watt is plenty right

[THEBRAIN]

small dash board solar trickal charger 5watt is plenty right
been using this since upsidedown world for the boat house battery w/ excellent results.it's 5watts
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1

I like this bc of the charge controller. It’s also 5watts, so 5watts to use as a trickle charger is plently right? Like why do they offer these basicely none chargers up to 20 watts, is that to just pad the bill? or or there another spec I'm overlooking?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...5HDAPDC75&th=1

priority of both chargers is to keep a unused battery topped off while vehical is unused.

thanks for small solar trickle charger advice

[hbn7hj]

Probably not enough power. It will just run your battery down. You can try it but I would not. Between it getting dark and not always getting direct sun it cannot stay ahead of it’s own power drain let alone a modern car’s parasitic draw.

Put a 100 watt panel on the roof with a charge controller and you have a chance. Yes, I learned it the hard way.

[THEBRAIN]

Originally Posted by hbn7hj

Probably not enough power. It will just run your battery down. You can try it but I would not. Between it getting dark and not always getting direct sun it cannot stay ahead of it’s own power drain let alone a modern car’s parasitic draw.

Put a 100 watt panel on the roof with a charge controller and you have a chance. Yes, I learned it the hard way.

what the hell is going on here!

did you even read my question?

do you even know what a trickle charger is used for dam.

[booster]

Originally Posted by THEBRAIN

what the hell is going on here!

did you even read my question?

do you even know what a trickle charger is used for dam.

He explained that trickle solar chargers don't trickle anything at night, and they don't much when it is cloudy, rainy, or in the shade. At that point you have to add up the parasitic drain of the vehicle/coach, wherever the charger is, for the whole day and compare it to what the total daily average is for the solar output. It will very likely be closer to 1/3 or less of what you think it is if you are taking 5 whats for 24 hours every day.

[THEBRAIN]

Originally Posted by booster

He explained that trickle solar chargers don't trickle anything at night, and they don't much when it is cloudy, rainy, or in the shade. At that point you have to add up the parasitic drain of the vehicle/coach, wherever the charger is, for the whole day and compare it to what the total daily average is for the solar output. It will very likely be closer to 1/3 or less of what you think it is if you are taking 5 whats for 24 hours every day.

the Guy obvisiouly didn't read the question a 100watt panel to trickel charge dam.

the 1st one I link to my first solar tricakl charger kept/maintained my boats house battery at 12.2vdc for 3 years of none use.

I seriously doubt the charge builtin charg controller would drain the battery just bogus jibberrase. I was gonna step up to 7.5 or 10 watts but decided 5watts was plently this from someone just asking bc solar is new to me.

also I have the panel aimed south/west so I get a full days sunlight.
btw these little chargers charge on cloudy days just a tad less. proballey don't charge much in shade.

I don't concider either my 04 RV van or my 03 savana conversion to be modern vehicals that have parasitic draws. like that dam 08 V8 trailblazor has.away rant over.

amazon never shipped my roof rack so I'm on hold for extreia big solar panels.

[booster]

Originally Posted by THEBRAIN

the Guy obvisiouly didn't read the question a 100watt panel to trickel charge dam.

the 1st one I link to my first solar tricakl charger kept/maintained my boats house battery at 12.2vdc for 3 years of none use.

I seriously doubt the charge builtin charg controller would drain the battery just bogus jibberrase. I was gonna step up to 7.5 or 10 watts but decided 5watts was plently this from someone just asking bc solar is new to me.

also I have the panel aimed south/west so I get a full days sunlight.
btw these little chargers charge on cloudy days just a tad less. proballey don't charge much in shade.

I don't concider either my 04 RV van or my 03 savana conversion to be modern vehicals that have parasitic draws. like that dam 08 V8 trailblazor has.away rant over.

amazon never shipped my roof rack so I'm on hold for extreia big solar panels.

The Chevies of that era, we have one, will use between .04 and .07 amps for the parasitic if all is factory and in good shape. Many use more than that from addons, though. Then you you have to add on what the maintaining amps of the wet cell starter battery are and that can vary a lot from maybe .1 or less to .3 amps for a good battery to even more than that. Our coach will use about .4 to .5 amps if the 12v power is on so the detectors and any other monitors are using power and it drops to .1 to .2 with the 12v off. If the batteries are disconnected it goes to about half of that as long as the solar is disconnected from the batteries also.


In a boat, you may have been with the batteries totally disconnected? How many and what type? Are you going to disconnect the starter and coach battery to do this?


There is a lot more to this than "it worked on X so it will work on Y", IMO.

[otr]

Really interesting post, my 2000 RT 190v went for the entire winter in a barn in VT with a full charge on the engine battery, I use a quick disconnect, so the battery was disconnected from the van, started as soon as I turned the key yeah!
Probably would be worth having something like this just to keep the battery happier over the off season!

[avanti]

Originally Posted by otr

Really interesting post, my 2000 RT 190v went for the entire winter in a barn in VT with a full charge on the engine battery, I use a quick disconnect, so the battery was disconnected from the van, started as soon as I turned the key yeah!
Probably would be worth having something like this just to keep the battery happier over the off season!

Yes.
A complete battery disconnect will keep a fully-charged, healthy battery adequately charged for many months. This is often a better choice than screwing around with a trickle charger.

[ChicagoTom]

My dash charger works great. I have an anti-rodent device hooked up to the chassis battery and my 7.5 watt has not failed me. You need a live cigarette lighter to plug into. 08 Chec=vy PW Lexor

[THEBRAIN]

Originally Posted by ChicagoTom

My dash charger works great. I have an anti-rodent device hooked up to the chassis battery and my 7.5 watt has not failed me. You need a live cigarette lighter to plug into. 08 Chec=vy PW Lexor

hey Tom that the same visor solar charger I have, the prerimeters cloth has completely deteriorated but it still works. the new charger is built much more durable no cloth.

yes both my vans the 1500 an the 3500 have live cigarette lighter circuits, if they didn't I'd make one.

pls post up the rodent device you have. are you using the rodent device bc your van stays parked most of the time?
thought about stepping up from 5 amps to higher maybe 7.5amps went w/ 5amp again.
thanks

[THEBRAIN]

Originally Posted by booster

The Chevies of that era, we have one, will use between .04 and .07 amps for the parasitic if all is factory and in good shape. Many use more than that from addons, though. Then you you have to add on what the maintaining amps of the wet cell starter battery are and that can vary a lot from maybe .1 or less to .3 amps for a good battery to even more than that. Our coach will use about .4 to .5 amps if the 12v power is on so the detectors and any other monitors are using power and it drops to .1 to .2 with the 12v off. If the batteries are disconnected it goes to about half of that as long as the solar is disconnected from the batteries also.


In a boat, you may have been with the batteries totally disconnected? How many and what type? Are you going to disconnect the starter and coach battery to do this?


There is a lot more to this than "it worked on X so it will work on Y", IMO.

usaly I do dissconect the 1500s battery but now am getting lazy an just connecting the trickle charger.
I've never done a parasitic draw test on either van. probably should have bc since the 03 1500 basicely sits (undriven since I got the RV) it drained down to 10vdc. so I'm cranking her an rolling the tires to differnt position (prevent flat spots) more often.
really like the idea of the trickle charger, wish I had a 3rd trickle charger for the riding lawn mower, I'm now having to charge before I can crank the mower dam.

yes you correct the boats battery (interstate lead acid group27 deep cycle I use as start battery I don't need a marie start battery) stays unconnected. boat doesn't have house batt. yet sorting out the isolator/separator method
plus I'm leary of lead acid batterys w/ there associated fumes inside the cabin. thanks

[ChicagoTom]

Originally Posted by THEBRAIN

hey Tom that the same visor solar charger I have, the prerimeters cloth has completely deteriorated but it still works. the new charger is built much more durable no cloth.

yes both my vans the 1500 an the 3500 have live cigarette lighter circuits, if they didn't I'd make one.

pls post up the rodent device you have. are you using the rodent device bc your van stays parked most of the time?
thought about stepping up from 5 amps to higher maybe 7.5amps went w/ 5amp again.
thanks

Here you go. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[THEBRAIN]

finally got around to connecting the new solar trickle charger up to RV.
connected to the live ciggarette lighter socket. I'm not liking the red LED indicater that says it's on concerned a LED could drain the battery.manufactor says the reverse diode prevents draining but thats part of the charge controller not the on/off indicater.or I maybe wrong.

I will insert a multimeter in the circuit to see if I'm getting the 22amps.

I may just disconnect this LED to prevent any drain however small it is.it can't be much more than the burglar alarm built into the radio.

considering a 555 IC chip and making a fake burglar alarm blinking LED mounted to top of dash, to keep scum bags away.
could also add resistanse to lower power draw.
what do you guys think

[ChicagoTom]

[QUOTE=THEBRAIN;147983]finally got around to connecting the new solar trickle charger up to RV.
connected to the live ciggarette lighter socket. I'm not liking the red LED indicater that says it's on concerned a LED could drain the battery

It won't drain it. It's only on when charging, and that light is lit from the solar. Unplug it during the day and you'll see what I mean. Regarding the fake camera. I've had one for years. It has a little solar panel on the top that recharges the battery. Got it on Amazon

[THEBRAIN]

[QUOTE=ChicagoTom;148041]

Originally Posted by THEBRAIN

finally got around to connecting the new solar trickle charger up to RV.
connected to the live ciggarette lighter socket. I'm not liking the red LED indicater that says it's on concerned a LED could drain the battery

It won't drain it. It's only on when charging, and that light is lit from the solar. Unplug it during the day and you'll see what I mean. Regarding the fake camera. I've had one for years. It has a little solar panel on the top that recharges the battery. Got it on Amazon

no Tom thats a negatory the red light is always on even at pitch black night time it indicates the charger is plugged in.

remember this is the new solar charger not the old visor charger like yours which doesn't have a red LED to indicate plugged in.

I do have a street light at end of driveway about 50' away.
I doubt the moonlight will charge. but the red LED was extremely bright.

on the back is the charge controller it has a tiny green Led that indicates either charging or not.

not sure what fake camera your referring to?

[ChicagoTom]

[QUOTE=THEBRAIN;148045]

Originally Posted by ChicagoTom

no Tom thats a negatory the red light is always on even at pitch black night time it indicates the charger is plugged in.

remember this is the new solar charger not the old visor charger like yours which doesn't have a red LED to indicate plugged in.

I do have a street light at end of driveway about 50' away.
I doubt the moonlight will charge. but the red LED was extremely bright.

on the back is the charge controller it has a tiny green Led that indicates either charging or not.

not sure what fake camera your referring to?

I see, yes mine goes out at night, but I still think you're worrying about nothing. Regarding the fake camera, I thought you were asking about it. I have one. No worries