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11-04-2018, 08:01 PM
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Platinum Member
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Location: Florida
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Onan 2.8 Generator
Hi.
Problem with my Onan
Its starts up pretty easy....runs for a few minutes.
Then it just shuts off?
I have been told to check the fuel filter? Does that sound right?
Probably should change it anyway?
Any idea of the best place to find it or a part number for it?
Thank you
Eddie
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11-04-2018, 09:03 PM
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#2
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Platinum Member
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Location: Massachusetts
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On the outside of your generator there should be a label which will have a model number. Use that to search for parts. There are several version of the 2.8 generator. Post exactly what you have.
Mine is a 2.8KV series F. The fuel filter is relatively inexpensive and prices on the internet are all fairly close in price. If you have not ever changed the filter, it a good place to start. Although you can see the fuel filter when you open the access door, it is tricky to change. The top hose (from filter to carb) is easily removed, however, the bottom hose is tough to reach. You may not enough free play in the fuel line to pull it up to access the clamp on the bottom. If you do get it off, be aware that there is an arrow on the filter that shows the direction of the fuel flow.
A fuel pump could also be at fault. Sometimes as they run and get hot, they can flow much less fuel.
Diagnosing generator problems is fairy technical. There is good information in the appropriate Onan Service manual, but to really diagnose one, it often requires dropping the generator. Once you determine the part involved, it is likely that it will not be accessible through the service door.
I'd start with the fuel filter, and while your are in there check the air filter. Also, if your unit surges when running, it could be symptoms of a dirty carburetor.
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11-05-2018, 02:53 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Forest Hill, Maryland
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I agree. Start with the fuel filter. I had a similar problem. It would start and run for 15 min. then die. I would wait for 10 min. and it would restart and then die 15 min. later. I replace the filter and it's ran fine since.
I have a 2.8 KVF and it uses fuel filter Wix33031 $6. (Onan equivalent) It is tough to change the filter through the opening but I found that by removing the 2 screws that hold the starter switch / control panel made it easier. Disconnect the battery first! You do not have to remove the control panel. Just remove the screws and allow the control panel to hang free you will be able to reach below the filter with a hemostat clamp and pull the hose up far enough to get to the lower hose clamp. The hemostat clamp will stop the gas flow and reach where you fingers won’t fit.
Never a problem, Sometimes a challenge, Always an adventure
Wes
2010 Pleasureway Excel TS (Buttercup)
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11-05-2018, 04:21 PM
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Platinum Member
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Location: Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wandering Wes
I agree. Start with the fuel filter. I had a similar problem. It would start and run for 15 min. then die. I would wait for 10 min. and it would restart and then die 15 min. later. I replace the filter and it's ran fine since.
I have a 2.8 KVF and it uses fuel filter Wix33031 $6. (Onan equivalent) It is tough to change the filter through the opening but I found that by removing the 2 screws that hold the starter switch / control panel made it easier. Disconnect the battery first! You do not have to remove the control panel. Just remove the screws and allow the control panel to hang free you will be able to reach below the filter with a hemostat clamp and pull the hose up far enough to get to the lower hose clamp. The hemostat clamp will stop the gas flow and reach where you fingers won’t fit.
Never a problem, Sometimes a challenge, Always an adventure
Wes
2010 Pleasureway Excel TS (Buttercup)
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Good advice. It would be so much easier if they put an extra 3" of hose.
Regarding the two screws that hold the bottom of the control panel, they are on the outside of the bottom mounting pan and exposed to the elements. Hopefully, they will come out. Use penetrating oil first for several applications. Mine were so rusted they the had to be drilled out, but I had to remove the generator to find a no start problem so, at that point, I had total access to them.
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11-11-2018, 06:55 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Illinois
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I had a similar issue with mine. The guy I got my xplorer from fixed mine he said it was the Regulator I believe and not a cheap part but he did it for the sale
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11-11-2018, 07:44 PM
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Bronze Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Downeast Maine
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At one point Onan used a low oil level switch on the 2800. Ours was defective, it would start and run but not reliably. Disconnecting/bypassing the switch fixed the issue. Just something else to keep in mind.
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11-11-2018, 09:36 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Florida
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I would try to run some Seafoam thru it if it'll run a little. Try running it with seafoam and when it quits, let it set a little and do again. Low oil level should also be checked.
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11-11-2018, 09:45 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Maryland, USA
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I had a similar problem worse in warm weather. It turned out to be a burnt fuel pump which has over heating.
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11-11-2018, 11:43 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Georgia
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I also had a similar problem.....Cumming repair here in GA had several go's at fixing it.
Turned out it needed a magneto.
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11-12-2018, 12:08 AM
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Gold Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Texas
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My Fuel Pump Was Bad
See attached.
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11-12-2018, 12:59 AM
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Platinum Member
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Location: Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bwatters60
See attached.
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Interesting set up. Although the pump runs cooler outside the case, it is more exposed to the elements.
I noticed that your generator did not have the foil backed piece of insulation that goes between the case and the black metal plate. Part #7 in this diagram. This may contribute to the overheating.
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11-12-2018, 01:36 AM
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Gold Member
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I had removed the insulation/inlet baffle for the pictures. Just FYI, since repairing my generator (June 2017) and relocating the fuel filter and pump, it has run flawlessly in temps up to 100+. And at minimum I run it at least once a month for 2 hours under half load as specified by Onan.
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11-14-2018, 07:46 PM
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Silver Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: PA
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I had the same problem. Mine was a bad rotor and voltage regulator. I replace them both and it now runs fine.
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11-23-2018, 06:18 PM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: CA
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Same problem.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeski
I had the same problem. Mine was a bad rotor and voltage regulator. I replace them both and it now runs fine.
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When I purchased the rig...had too few hours... probably never serviced by original owners?
Yeah, took it to Cummins Onan....they replaced the rotor and voltage regulator....
Yes, two hours per month... good idea.... Cummins said these units can run thousands of hours, just don't let them sit around ....
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