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09-25-2020, 07:55 PM
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Silver Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Colorado
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Originally Posted by yvairguy
I thought about going all solar and batteries but I've changed my mind. When I bought my rig a year ago it had around 700 hours on the generator, it now has 1490. Mine has the 4000 watt generator. I got caught out of state when Covid started and ran it for much of the time during the day. I do have 2 lithium batteries but had not installed solar yet so they charge off the converter when I was running the AC. I ran the AC all day and the max air fan all night.
My van sat for several years before I bought it and I did the seafoam soak and changed the sparkplug and oil. it helped. I still plan on replacing the carb but like I said its run for over 700 hours.
My plan now is to add 400 to 500 watts of solar and 2 more lithium batteries for a total of 400Ah of battery storage. I will use an inverter/charger and add Gen start with the plan of running the whole rig off batteries and should they drop below a monitored set point the Gen will start to power what's needed and then top up the batteries before it shuts off. AC/heat pump, convection/microwave oven, inverter cooktop, etc. pretty much just like being at home.
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Bad thing my gen has 65 hours on it and its not working correctly. I think it say way too long. I hope to revive it and keep it but still want to go with big on board amperage for stealth ski area lots.
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09-26-2020, 01:17 AM
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Silver Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Yucca Valley Ca
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Originally Posted by Theputnams515
Bad thing my gen has 65 hours on it and its not working correctly. I think it say way too long. I hope to revive it and keep it but still want to go with big on board amperage for stealth ski area lots.
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I saw a YouTube video where a guy replaced the carburetor on a small motor. He showed how he had to "tune up" the carb to get it to work right. I've heard where some people get a good replacement carb first time out and where they have had to get one or two to get their gen working right. My guess is they probably could have all worked had they just known how, or taken the time, to adjust or tune up the carb.
I will say though that I was skeptical that the seafoam soak would make a difference but it seemed to help a bit in my case. forgot to mention that I also replaced all the fuel lines as I found one leaking. That can also cause issues with sputtering.
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09-26-2020, 01:20 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Minnesota
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Originally Posted by yvairguy
I saw a YouTube video where a guy replaced the carburetor on a small motor. He showed how he had to "tune up" the carb to get it to work right. I've heard where some people get a good replacement carb first time out and where they have had to get one or two to get their gen working right. My guess is they probably could have all worked had they just known how, or taken the time, to adjust or tune up the carb.
I will say though that I was skeptical that the seafoam soak would make a difference but it seemed to help a bit in my case. forgot to mention that I also replaced all the fuel lines as I found one leaking. That can also cause issues with sputtering.
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You will find the Seafoam to work much better, I think, if you let it sit in the carb with the engine not running. Mix it to the optional high amount on the can with non ethanol gas, if you can get it, run the genny on it for 15 minutes, let sit overnight, and then repeat every day until it runs better and isn't changing anymore. Then adjust the altitude adjustment to where it doesn't surge or sag when the power goes on heavy.
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09-26-2020, 01:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Have you seen this new product?
To me at least.
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09-26-2020, 02:02 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Minnesota
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Originally Posted by themexicandoctor
Have you seen this new product?
To me at least.
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There have been several discussions of it on this forum lately.
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09-26-2020, 02:04 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by booster
There have been several discussions of it on this forum lately.
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Again, Thank You.
As one of The Giants here, what is your impression?
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09-26-2020, 02:06 AM
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Silver Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Yucca Valley Ca
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Originally Posted by booster
You will find the Seafoam to work much better, I think, if you let it sit in the carb with the engine not running. Mix it to the optional high amount on the can with non ethanol gas, if you can get it, run the genny on it for 15 minutes, let sit overnight, and then repeat every day until it runs better and isn't changing anymore. Then adjust the altitude adjustment to where it doesn't surge or sag when the power goes on heavy.
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I frequently find myself where I can buy ethanol free at the pumps. I have enough room under the van to add an additional tank. I have through several times about doing so and using it just for ethanol free fuel. It could be a reserve for the coach but primary fuel source for the gen.
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09-26-2020, 02:08 AM
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Platinum Member
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Location: Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by themexicandoctor
Again, Thank You.
As one of The Giants here, what is your impression?
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Hard to say. Has all the right kind of technologies, but none of us has heard one run for noise or seen for vibration, so no input on that. Also have no idea it it will be better than the horrible reliability of the old design.
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09-26-2020, 02:16 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by booster
Hard to say. Has all the right kind of technologies, but none of us has heard one run for noise or seen for vibration, so no input on that. Also have no idea it it will be better than the horrible reliability of the old design.
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So much for that Song & Dance.
I do know that in order to fix my an OEM generator, the Guru that all RV Companies send their hard to repair Generators to (Larry at Oliphant), he had to pull it out & get to what he suspected it was, some little nylon that gets worn down over time.
He said it was a piss poor design.
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09-26-2020, 02:35 AM
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Silver Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Colorado
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Originally Posted by themexicandoctor
So much for that Song & Dance.
I do know that in order to fix my an OEM generator, the Guru that all RV Companies send their hard to repair Generators to (Larry at Oliphant), he had to pull it out & get to what he suspected it was, some little nylon that gets worn down over time.
He said it was a piss poor design.
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If I was in LA I would take to Larry. It would be a long drive from here, lol.
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09-26-2020, 02:45 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Originally Posted by Theputnams515
If I was in LA I would take to Larry. It would be a long drive from here, lol.
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I don't know.
When you get someone who knows what he is doing & charges a fair price, its a great excuse for a road trip especially when I have a few of them lined up for you.
Kissing Frogs is no longer what it uses to be, we are moving to, or were once hurtling to a throwaway culture.
Add the internet & a lot of the profit that comes with being an owner & an installer has gone out the window.
Out of 6 honest & talented professionals in LA, 4 have retired this year before Covid & one more, is just a heart beat away while he trains a close relative to take over.
Now there is still an abundance of dealerships & tool jockeys that work for them, but the talented, fair priced, jusy bring it in Professionals are becoming rarer every year.
By then I should have a better handle on my own repairs however I prefer a Professional.
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09-26-2020, 02:46 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by yvairguy
My plan now is to add 400 to 500 watts of solar and 2 more lithium batteries for a total of 400Ah of battery storage. I will use an inverter/charger and add Gen start with the plan of running the whole rig off batteries and should they drop below a monitored set point the Gen will start to power what's needed and then top up the batteries before it shuts off. AC/heat pump, convection/microwave oven, inverter cooktop, etc. pretty much just like being at home.
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Sounds like a good plan.
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09-26-2020, 11:29 AM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Calif
Posts: 518
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Quote:
Originally Posted by themexicandoctor
So much for that Song & Dance.
I do know that in order to fix my an OEM generator, the Guru that all RV Companies send their hard to repair Generators to (Larry at Oliphant), he had to pull it out & get to what he suspected it was, some little nylon that gets worn down over time.
He said it was a piss poor design.
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I wonder if Oliphant could do something with the noise and vibration of the Onan?
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09-26-2020, 10:15 PM
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Platinum Member
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He might have some work arounds.
But 2005 we felt much different about generator noise back then.
The units were designed for the times we lived in.
And the commonsense rules of community at a time when commonsense wasn't uncommon & community had more import.
To think 15 years ago our hearing was that much more acute.
And maybe my hearing was so bad then but I don't even remember 100% of these top ten songs of 2005;
1.*We Belong Together - Mariah Carey2.*Hollaback Girl - Gwen Stefani3.*Let Me Love You - Mario4.*Since U Been Gone - Kelly Clarkson5.*One, Two Step - Ciara featuring Missy Elliott6.*Gold Digger - Kanye West featuring Jamie Foxx7.*Boulevard of Broken Dreams - Green Day8.*Candy Shop - 50 Cent featuring Olivia9.*Don't Cha - The Pussycat Dolls featuring Busta Rhymes10.*Behind These Hazel Eyes - Kelly Clarkson
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09-27-2020, 05:57 PM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: WA
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StarTron is superior to Seafoam for clearing fuel systems.
BTW, I'd stick w the genny as they are reliable over time, but fuel systems are not. Thats where fuel cleaners and conditioners come in.
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09-27-2020, 06:19 PM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Calif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yvairguy
I frequently find myself where I can buy ethanol free at the pumps. I have enough room under the van to add an additional tank. I have through several times about doing so and using it just for ethanol free fuel. It could be a reserve for the coach but primary fuel source for the gen.
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Someone on the FB Travato forum posted this. He installed a flat muffler to reduce sound and vibration. Here is the link to the item used
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1
He swears by it. Says the
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09-27-2020, 06:31 PM
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Platinum Member
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Location: Calif
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Originally Posted by Rlum
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Sorry, forgot this picture of his measurement.
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09-27-2020, 07:22 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Ontario Canada
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After purchasing my 1997 Roadtrek 190 during a repair it was discovered that the Onan had been removed. So far I haven't needed a generator - the furnace works well for heat in very cold temps. My Kodiak with 3 solar panels keeps the microwave working well.
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09-27-2020, 08:52 PM
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Platinum Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Vermont
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Go Solar
We added 200 watts of solar to our 2000 RT 190V this summer. I found someone with a maybe 2013 who was upgrading and bought his 2 6V AGM batteries, 750watt Tripplite inverter/charger and a bunch of cabling.
For us sidetracking the generator was a no brainer, we only use 110v for a limited number of applications. Batteries will not run the AC, a bigger inverter will run the microwave, but for simplicity I just ran one 110 line from the inverter, the fan on the furnace is not a big draw.
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Originally Posted by Theputnams515
2000 Chev RT200p
I am having some issues with our Onan 2800 Micro and rather than sinking big $$ into having it fixed I am thinking of going a new direction.
I am thinking of pulling it and putting a battery bank in there and possibly buying a portable genny for emergencies and charging if necessary.
So far I am thinking of possibly replacing the 12v coach with a 6v and adding a second (up to 3 more 6v, 2 in old genny spot).
If using 4 6v two in series as packs, and two in packs parallel to get them all together.
My wifes concern is being able to run the microwave in the boonies. We like the convenience. We will have propane onboard for the stove top, fridge and furnace.
I am a complete newb and have no idea where to go from here. Just some basic ideas.
If I need to since tons in a genny I think I could get away better going this route and maybe even save a little $$. I dunno.
Guidance from you all would be great!
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10-01-2020, 11:14 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: QC
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Hello .. maybe i'm in the rite forum for my ''POSSIBLE'' upcoming situation .. Hoping i can get some insite here .. We R future Class B owners .. BoonDOKinG wiil B "PROBABY" in the order of 75%/25% (25% being @ campsites) .. Like i've mentioned in other posts .. I am a chef and believe i can sustain whatever i can do in my dwelling will ahve 2 B done with the class B RV .. Convection / microwave combo oven (need 1 thats poweful) .. Rotary mixer & espresso machine (i am sure all of these use allot of wattage) but IDK offcially .. All the rest is gas operated (so no electricity consumption) .. All that equipement will have 2 fit somewhere in that class B .. I am in no rush to eat hastily .. I enjoy cooking the best possible meals with all the trimmings no matter how much time it takes .. Not in2 crockppot/or instapot type things .. So .. Essientially i need "PROBABLY" Volt start capabilities large lithium batteries and massive solar or massive inverter .. Anyway .. Hoping 2 get some ideas here
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