2005 Roadtrek 210 Versitile - without an inverter?

[themexicandoctor]

I bought the Magnum Remote Control which you need to set up the parameters easily but I have a Victron BMV712 smart Battery Meter as well as the Victron MTTP 100/300 amp Controller

The data from the Victron units far supercedes the limited detail of the Magnum

Marco many Roadtreks came with Magnum, even some more modern years.

[Bud]

I don't recall this application, but would it be possible to replace the Versitile's driver's side passenger seat with a refer?

[markopolo]

Originally Posted by themexicandoctor

......... Marco many Roadtreks came with Magnum, even some more modern years.

No they didn't. As I mentioned, Magnetek converters were quite common in Roadtreks.

Most units from 2004 to 2012 had Tripp-Lite inverter/chargers. We already know about Bud's 2005 RT with a PD converter.

After that it was ZL Power / Microgreen inverter/chargers and likely some continued use of Tripp-Lite inverter/chargers.

[booster]

Originally Posted by themexicandoctor

I bought the Magnum Remote Control which you need to set up the parameters easily but I have a Victron BMV712 smart Battery Meter as well as the Victron MTTP 100/300 amp Controller

The data from the Victron units far supercedes the limited detail of the Magnum

Marco many Roadtreks came with Magnum, even some more modern years.

This is what the issue is with the Magnum inverter/charger and remote selection and compatibility alludes to that I mentioned earlier. When you use the non full featured inverter/charger like the the MMS version no matter what remote you use you don't get all the displays or features. With the MS series and ARC50, you get equal or very close to all the same information and displays as the Victron, plus the ability to fine tune all the charging parameters.

[themexicandoctor]

Originally Posted by Bud

I don't recall this application, but would it be possible to replace the Versitile's driver's side passenger seat with a refer?

THAT IS A GREAT IDEA BUD!

If you haven't already already utilized that space like I have with a custom made Wardrobe.

There is an issue with Sun, etc but it would be so easy to create lots of venting & air flow.

This is what I put in that space on the driver'side;

The huge closet.

Then on the passenger side, a cupboard with shelves on one side that makes the side door entry impossible but on the outer half opens up to store my medical table & equipment.

This was done the first week I purchased the van, when I was naive about absorption refrigeration & the importance of keeping them level plus their laboured performance in the Hot Summer Months.

[themexicandoctor]

Originally Posted by booster

This is what the issue is with the Magnum inverter/charger and remote selection and compatibility alludes to that I mentioned earlier. When you use the non full featured inverter/charger like the the MMS version no matter what remote you use you don't get all the displays or features. With the MS series and ARC50, you get equal or very close to all the same information and displays as the Victron, plus the ability to fine tune all the charging parameters.

Exactly!

Plus the Magnum technology isn nowhere near the performance of Victron.

But I love the Magnum Pure Sine Wave compared to the Tripplite 612.

[themexicandoctor]

Originally Posted by markopolo

No they didn't. As I mentioned, Magnetek converters were quite common in Roadtreks.

Most units from 2004 to 2012 had Tripp-Lite inverter/chargers. We already know about Bud's 2005 RT with a PD converter.

After that it was ZL Power / Microgreen inverter/chargers and likely some continued use of Tripp-Lite inverter/chargers.

Matt,*
How are you Mate?

I don't mind being wrong but I dislike misleading people who legitimately come on here for assistance - sooner or later someoneis going to come on here with a Magnum retrofit because of Roadtrek & go what is this thing? - I found this email exchange between Peter Lange who was the go to service guru at Roadtrek - it seems to help some pissed off customers they did install some Magnum retrofits.

At the time, I was needing an inverter that ran a stronger blender while dealing with electrical noise on my stereo & just terrible performance of the Tripplite 612 installed stock.

Now I also have a whole solar system with Victron & Lifeline, etc - what a learning curve in the meantime.

*IN JULY RETURNING TO JEREMY & WELDTEC TO GET ANOTHER 2 INCHES OF LIFT - GREAT REFERRAL & REMEMBER, SUPERSPRINGS HAVE SOME GREAT OPTIONS ALSO


Subject: RE: Quick question on replacing Tripplite Inverter ...
Hiya Doc,
The RV750ULHW is exactly the same size as the 612. The RV1250ULHW is also exactly the same size and does all the same things, it is just a 1250 watt inverter. The charger portion in all three is exactly the same.

We have, on occasion, had Magnum MM1212 inverters installed to replace the TrippLite, but the Magnum is larger and does not fit the same so the whole compartment would have to be reconfigured.

I don’t know about efficiency. The newest Onan (since 2011) generator does not play well with the TrippLite but the older ones did. You may want to look into a portable or roof top solar panel/array to help keep the batteries topped up if you spend a lot of time stationary and there is lots of sun. Portable panels let you point them right toward the sun for best effect and then you can keep the vehicle in the shade.
Cheers,
Peter Lange
Service & Warranty Specialist

[markopolo]

Originally Posted by themexicandoctor

............... when Roadtrek had a stellar reputation, they installed Magnum as standard equipment ....................

Originally Posted by themexicandoctor

...........Marco many Roadtreks came with Magnum, even some more modern years.

I'm sure you didn't intend to mislead anyone.

An occasional retrofit of a MM1212 is far from standard equipment as you claimed.

As for your other claim, I doubt any Roadtreks came with a Magnum as standard equipment.

[booster]

IIRC, in one of the conversations I had with Magnum about the compatibility questions, the tech said something about Roadtrek was looking at switching to the smaller inverter/chargers in their line as they were better, didn't have the ground fault issues, had a better reputation. He didn't say if what had shipped to Roadtrek were for testing, production, or specials. I think they probably didn't change because of their gravitation towards the much less expensive Asian models, and the Chevies winding down a bit.


We know that Roadtrek would "use up" anything they had laying around like the did on another poster's van that didn't even get a Tripplite in a year it should have, so there may be a couple out there. I have never seen or heard of one in the wild, though, so must be pretty few and far between.

[themexicandoctor]

Originally Posted by markopolo

I'm sure you didn't intend to mislead anyone.

An occasional retrofit of a MM1212 is far from standard equipment as you claimed.

As for your other claim, I doubt any Roadtreks came with a Magnum as standard equipment.

Yes, EVERYONE DISREGARD THE MAGNUM EVER BEING STANDARD EQUIPMENT ON ROADTREK - IN OTHER CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH PETER, THE MAGNUM RETROFIT WAS TO QUIET THE "SQUEAKY WHEEL CUSTOMERS..."

[Gary Rasmussen]

Thanks for the assistance. I appreciate all the help verifying I wasn't losing my mind when I couldn't find the inverter in my camper. With all this advice, at this time, I am not planning on trying to put an inverter back in. it sounds like the inverter itself will be $500 - 1000, plus what it takes to get it installed.

One of my related frustrations was there was no 12V outlet near the TV. I found that the Roadtrek was wired for it, and found the wires with nothing attached behind the TV cabinetry. I am installing a couple of 12V plugs (with extra 5V USB charge plugs). My plan is to run the TV etc, along with charging my laptop on small lighter plug style inverters. I will be looking closely at loads to match what inverter can handle what. We will see how this goes. I may reconsider installing a built in inverter in the future. I may also upgrade the TV to something that runs directly on 12V and has an HDMI plug, so I can use it as a 2nd monitor with my notebook, when I need to be in 'office' mode,

[themexicandoctor]

Smart adjustments

[booster]

Originally Posted by Gary Rasmussen

Thanks for the assistance. I appreciate all the help verifying I wasn't losing my mind when I couldn't find the inverter in my camper. With all this advice, at this time, I am not planning on trying to put an inverter back in. it sounds like the inverter itself will be $500 - 1000, plus what it takes to get it installed.

One of my related frustrations was there was no 12V outlet near the TV. I found that the Roadtrek was wired for it, and found the wires with nothing attached behind the TV cabinetry. I am installing a couple of 12V plugs (with extra 5V USB charge plugs). My plan is to run the TV etc, along with charging my laptop on small lighter plug style inverters. I will be looking closely at loads to match what inverter can handle what. We will see how this goes. I may reconsider installing a built in inverter in the future. I may also upgrade the TV to something that runs directly on 12V and has an HDMI plug, so I can use it as a 2nd monitor with my notebook, when I need to be in 'office' mode,

A long as you are wiring in plugs, you might want to consider forgoing the cheap plug in inverters as they usually have very dirty power, and consider a small pure sine wave one of maybe 300 watts. Many still plug in the same as the cheap ones but have good power and usually a couple gfci outlets in them. They are quite small. Very good for in an audio cabinet like you are doing and for charging devices with the factory chargers. We have a 2000 watt inverter for the big loads, but usually just leave it off. For the audio we have a 120 watt psw one and another 120 watt for a device charging station. They have very low parasitic, but are also on switches. This has worked very well for us.

[South]

My 05 Roadtrek looks nothing like your picture.
Looks like someone changed out what the factory installs.

[Spunkie]

I recently purchased a 2006 RoadTrek 210 Versatile where can I get an owner’s manual?

[mkguitar]

Hi and Welcome,


I have another brand- If you don;t get a response, start a new thread and get some eyes


Cheers, Mike